Deontay Wilder vs Joe Frazier

Is Foreman an all time top ten heavyweight or not?
1st career early ko wins over Frazier x2, Norton ,Lyle.

 

Frazier had his hands full with Bonavena and George Johnson. Three fights, no stoppages.

 

He makes some to ten lists because of the second career. The 70s career in isolation isn’t top ten worthy.

 

Has it? I haven't noticed. I've not really gotten mad at anything this week. I've spent all week in bed with an ear infection, I've not really felt any anger at all.

You're the doctor, why don't you tell me why?

 

Frazier took on Bonavena in his 12 fight, Wilder fought the legendary Shannon Caudle in his!
How many stopped Bonavena in 68 fights ?
Scrap iron Johnson went the distance with
Quarry
Machen
Boudreaux
Ledoux
Jones
Ramos
Kirkman
He wasn't exactly china chinned

 

IYO

 

I don’t know about ears.

I did do the licensing eye exam recently for a champion who all know and admire, but I can’t reveal the name due to HIPAA laws.

 

I knew. You're a Tyson Fury fan!

 

true

 

Does Wilder use his height and reach to keep shorter opponents away?

 

I don't think Joe is generally rated up there with the elite knockout artists Like Louis, Shavers, Foreman and Liston. Frazier could hurt you but he was an attrition puncher. What made it tough to fight him is that though he had power he never depended on that alone. He was busy, what power he had he carried it throughout the fight.

 

1 Wilder, also a Olympic-2008 Beijing Heavyweight so not at SHW and he got KO by guy who was 5.10...so why not Joe Frazier ??

2 significantly faster than Foreman, hits at least as hard or harder-yes Harder then foreman for sure BUT only throws one punch.
The possibility that he will land that one punch? We are talking about short distance as Frazier will close the distance none stop (WILDER CANT TROW SHORT PUNCHES HE NEEDS DISTANCE TO STEP AND SWING LIKE HE DID VS STIVER,BREAZEALE)

3coming right at you like shooting fish in a barrel, YES only problem is you are shooting one shot every 1.5 min on avg if you look up Wilder that his work rate is 2 good attacks per round OR ONE VERY 1.5 MIN yes BUT TROW VERY FEW SHOTS.
YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY SHOTS ALI MISS TO JUST LAND ONE ON THE FACE OF FRAZIER.


4 Wilder will use the jab?!?!?!?!?!??!!? Give me one fight where did WILDER use JAB 1 YOU HAVE 42 FIGHTS go one tell me something smart.
HE DIDNT DO IN 42 FIGHTS HE WILL NOT DO IT NOW AND OF THE STORY.



5Frazier ain't got the chin to handle it-NO one have the chine but WILDER WILL RUN because he is not mentally strong to take shots He runs every fight when gets hit Wilder v Breazeale--1.32(took one punch from Breazeale and he was all the away across the ring)
JOE WILL CHASE HIM DOWN SLIP AND COME UP WITH LEFT HOOK ONE VERY PUNCH WILDER TROW ROUND.
Wilder needs time to set up he will have none because he will be one his defense from the first min in fight to close to trow anything strong taking hook after hook from JOE

IF YOU HAVE NEVER BOXING IN YOUR LIFE AND YOU KNOW JACK PLEASE STOP WASTING MY TIME .

 

Right hook and Frazier`s did more damage because they were traveling upwards and he threw more of them than Ortiz threw v Wilder the hooks to the body would have a cummulative effect on Wilder, I don`t know if the shot Ortiz hurt Wilder with was harder than the shot that floored Ali in his first clash with Joe but that same hook would have floored Wilder and Frazier would have finished better than Ortiz did when he hurt DW.

 

Alot of Wilder`s punches v Fury were jabs and counter jabs, it was a cagey fight Joe would counter almost every shot Wilder threw, Fury didn`t he was mostly slipping without countering afterwards. Wilder would be more hesitant v Joe.

 

Lewis`s head was very stationary like Wilder`s after punching, he got caught with a lot of counters because of this, Frazier would have nailed him with the hook because of this flaw.