Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz In Negotiations For March 3rd @ Barclays Center...

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  1. BCS8

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    This, all the way.
     
  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Okay Dr Jonathan Tamarkin, I just listed the raw numbers, instead of replying to the facts...You felt the irrational need to involve psychotherapy & sexual behavior to escape the numbers...
     
  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Analyze this...

    Wilder KO Gavern (Aug 2014)
    Zhang KO Gavern (Nov 2014)
    Joshua KO Gavern (April 2015)
     
  4. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    bonecrusher v molina
    thomas v duhaupus
    tubbs v arreola
    holmes v spilzka
    bruno v washington

    cant remember if i have tysons defenses in the right order or if i have missed anyone out spinks not sure if he was before bruno or after without looking up boxing rec but tysons opponents **** on wilders
     
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  5. latineg

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    Yeah but you are neglecting to mention all the guys you brought up had already stepped up at least once (if not several times) before they cherry picked anyone. (Title holders i mean) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Wilder has NOT!

    Huge difference fella.

    I laughed at that post with Gavern, you typed it like you truthfully believed it was a solid point that really mattered, that was beautiful.

    Listen, dont try to compete with Blizzy, theres no way you're that stupid, its just not possible.
     
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  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson was the one the greatest promoted humans in history, trying to debunk your claim will require the same energy of trying to convince a christian/muslim that Mary lied about her virginity. No one wants to miss with religious peasants, so yeah Tyson title defenses were vs Greek Gods & Tyson destroyed them...

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  7. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Its the lower quality that creates the numbers thats the question you keep escaping, correct?

    The numbers are great, never been the problem, sorry for calling you a **** gobbler, my bad.
     
  8. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have no belief system, just numbers buddy...

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    Top WBC Heavyweight world champion by title defenses:

    19 --- Muhammad Ali
    16 --- Larry Holmes
    14 --- Lennox Lewis
    10 --- Vitali klitschko
    09 --- Mike Tyson
    06 --- Deontay Wilder
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    Wilder KO Gavern (Aug 2014)
    Zhang KO Gavern (Nov 2014)
    Joshua KO Gavern (April 2015)
     
  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Highly subjective & yes I escape subjective issues (lots of room for personal opinions)

    Numbers: bust/waist/hips ratio of a lady
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    Subjective talk: Love, religious, polite, nice...etc
     
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  10. MVC!

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    Deontay is one of the best/greatest fighters alive today! Let's see him pass Joe!!
     
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  11. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    its ok debating this with me i am an atheist.
    yep i am aware of the seldon non punch you put up
    but it as much a red herring as wilder v scott

    you posted that in your opinion wilders defenses were as good as tysons
    debate it with me.
    prove me wrong
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    My thoughts on this are the same as they were before.

    Wilder will smash him, but Ortiz is a credible opponent due to his ranking and resume.
     
  13. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Well its not my fault you dont even accept how your mind works.

    You believe in the QUALITY of the numbers you have shown.

    I dont, plus the majority dont. You can either choose to believe thats reality or not, either way thats on you.

    And seriously, the Gavern numbers are not helping you, its showing how in denial you are as AJ has fought and beat Wlad since then while Wilder STILL has yet to step up after 40 fights.

    I like Wilders potential i promise, i think he is very exciting in the ring, very good hand speed and power.

    That does not change that after 40 fights currently he is the biggest cherry picker in the history of boxing.

    Do a poll anywhere to confirm it for yourself if you choose not to believe me.

    Just dont blame that reality on me, i didnt start it.
     
  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am giving Tyson the benefit of the doubt (I am not a subjective expert)...So I assume Seldon fight is as legit as any of his other title defenses. Tyson has 9 WBC title defenses, Wilder has 6 WBC title defenses, so obviously Tyson is still better for now...Wilder is still active, so we will see
     
  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Regarding the majority...

    * 3 Billion+ humans officially believe Mary didn't have sex
    * 99% of humans are owned subjects, their opinions can be easily be changed by the intellectually superior minority

    Whatever the majority believes is reality, I am fine with that, the majority of humans will read the boxing official records & see how great Wilder undefeated record is. That is how it works with the majority, if the pool sours up...we involve more peasants, they didn't mind Mayweather vs McGregor