Deontay Wilder vs Murat Gassiev

He`s not used to Wilder`s power.

 

I watched the fight the other day and either had it Szpilka 5-3 or 4-4 at the time of the stoppage but Szpilka wasn't doing any real damage to Wilder and Wilder would have been aware that the American judges would favour his work, so he never needed to overextend himself. Wilder outboxes pressure fighters on the backfoot (Stiverne 1, Arreola, Duhaupas) or terminates them early (Stiverne 2, Breazeale) and conserves his energy to snipe movers after the damage accumulates and they slow down (Szpilka, Wahington, Ortiz x2, Fury 1).

There is method in Wilder's apparent madness, much like Joe Joyce. Joyce was down on the cards vs Takam but the plan was to pressure him relentlessly knowing Joyce could easily take the shots, make the old, overmuscled Takam gas and take him out mid-late. Some fighters (typically specialists with significant strengths and weaknesses like Wilder and Joyce) have strategies to win that don't involve the fight going the distance and can even entail them going behind in the fight before they win. It's analogous in chess to sacrificing your queen to get the checkmate.

 

Stiverne managed to go the distance with Wilder before his punch resistance deteriorated and he could have been a cruiser if he cut the flab.

Regardless, I agree that Wilder probably stops Gassiev. His advantages in speed, explosive power and length are massive and Gassiev is not especially agile or mobile.

 

Maybe.
Wilder in pros is a caveman nothing more here.
If someone will read up him he will KO Wilder.
Wilder is beatable. Gassiev or even Dorticos are not 40 y.o old unlce Ortiz.
They are not enough old for casual Wilder's xx bum carousel.

Interestingly how Wilder might look vs Ruiz?
And do not brag how good boxer Wilder is: he had get WBC belt and milked this belt by fighting BUMS 5 years in row until he get fat rusty Fury in the ring.
Worst boxing champion US ever had.
Maybe Garry Russel Jr might now be better here than Wilder: soon he will milk WBC belt 6 years in row. LOL.

 

Did you see the rematch v Stiverne? That 1-2 would have blown Gassiev away.

 

On bums Wilder was effective of course and had been hero.
Interesting was how he looked vs fat rusty Fury.
Appeared Fury was not enough old.
Wilder is caveman, nothing to be pride here, 40 y.o uncle Ortiz had outboxed him until crude caveman had landed on him his money punch and damn, Wilder might had lost 1 fight vs uncle Ortiz if this caveman was not cash cow on A side with cool ref.

 

Wilder being an obvious idiot is another advantage here: people don't believe there is any strategy going on. But Wilder has smart people in his corner, feeding him a gameplan. There are clearly fights where he follows a box and move gameplan (Stiverne 1, Duhaupas) so the idea that he's too stupid to follow a simple but effective plan is false. Wilder is easier to underestimate than someone like AJ (at least pre-Ruiz) because although AJ is slower, less rangy and less powerful, contenders don't know if they can outbox him but they fancy their chances against Wilder. This makes Wilder even more dangerous because many people, even most hardcore boxing fans by the looks of it, think he's just a bum who just manages to land a lucky punch to bail him out every time. Movers think "I'm a skilled guy, if I can avoid that right hand for 12 rounds, I'll win" but then they have the judges against them, they are constantly moving around, intimidated by the power and taking hard shots which are draining the gas tank and accumulating damage. By round 8 on they are noticeably slower, fatigued and have been buzzed numerous times. Then Wilder lands the right hand and closes the show.

 

I'll take Gassiev in the upset by ko

 

Well, the difference between Wilder and A.J does starts here: A.J does have 2 hands capable to get opponent down, Wilder: 1 hand.
Yeah, Wilder had built his career with spoon fed opponents until he get Fury in the ring.
A.J with over the hill uncles with notable surnames.

Wilder is one handed, A.J: with poor gas tank if he attempts to KO someone, otherwise his gas tank might be very good.

 

Wilder's team have conned you. If Gassiev underestimated Wilder as you do he'd almost certainly get KO'd. Ortiz has many physical and technical advantages over Gassiev and had proven himself as a very good heavyweight, fat and slow Gassiev has done nothing at HW and looked like a C/D level fighter against Usyk; practically every other top cruiser looked more impressive.

If you think Ruiz would have any chance against Wilder then you are so blinded by hatred of Wilder that you are unable to process reality. Ruiz is a slow footed, morbidly obese and very short "HW" with LHW length arms and little power. He couldn't KO shot Liakhovich over 10 rounds who Wilder terminated within 2 minutes and went life and death and couldn't KO 40 year old retired, injury prone Arreola who Wilder outboxed and stopped easily 5 years prior. Ruiz is less dangerous than Stiverne: faster hands but shorter and stubbier, slower feet and far less power. Wilder would massacre Ruiz and make AJ's loss look even worse than it already does, I hope they make the fight.

 

Stiverne was dropped by Derric Rossy prior to the fight, came in in terrible condition and had been on a long layoff so it wasn't prime Stiverne, who fought with a tight guard and chin tucked like Duhaupas, absorbed plenty of bombs and went the distance.

Even the biggest punchers don't always KO their opponents if their opponents are especially tough, fast, agile, long or defensively skilled with a good engine. Fortunately for Wilder, Gassiev does not tick many of those boxes, so he likely gets terminated.

 

You have a point, but for the most part this has been limited to subpar opposition, and older fighters like Ortiz. He had a much harder time landing the right hand on Fury, and in the rematch got totally steamrolled, I expected a similar result in the 3rd fight.

 

Tecnhically he was good boxer, better than Gassiev, there is question: what kind of advantages 40 y.o uncle had vs Gassiec?
Slow old Uncle was larger ? Gassiev was 234 lbs in his last fight according to tapology for example.
U think Gassiev is puny crusierweight? He is larger than Foreman was in 70 ies.

Damn blind were ppl who had placed their money to bet that A.J will win vs Ruiz in 1 st fight or that A.J will KO Ruiz in rematch.
I did not had placed such bets and therefore I think I'm less blind than xx xxx xxx ppl in the world. This is what this is here, not less not more.

I might remember you: huge bunch with ppl had lost their money with betting on idol Wilder on fights vs Fury.

There are xx xxx xxx xxx boxing experts in the world, sadly does not looks that someone from these had turned into someone like B Gates or like this.
Why?
Cos they are experts to " predict " and get " rich ".

 

You should listen to what your Lord Wlad said about Wilder:

It would be a dangerous fight for Joshua,” Klitschko said. “I’m not saying he wouldn’t win it but Wilder has something. Due to his weight, he is extremely fast.

“He has good power in his hands and he’s extremely fast. Maybe he’s kind of wild in his technique but those punches are coming from who knows where.

“He is hard to defend against – where is that punch going to land or which side is it coming from? Joshua has all-around more capability but Wilder is taller than Joshua and is faster than Joshua.”

Wlad also mentioned Wilder having an experience advantage over AJ in one of his interviews. So despite being a huge AJ supporter and someone who has sparred both men extensively, he can't predict a winner due to Wilder's power, speed, length, unpredictability and experience advantages. I would add to Wlad's list of Wilder advantages: stamina, toughness, determination, confidence, agility, fighting instincts and ease of underestimation.

AJ's opponents have since been proven to be overrated: Ruiz (competitive with shot Liakhovich, life and death with retired Arreola) Parker (controversial decision over Ruiz in NZ, life and death with Takam in NZ, gift decision against Chisora) and Whyte (controversial wins over Chisora x2 and Parker in Britain, life and death with Rivas in Britain, terminated by shot Povetkin in Britain). It's a myth that Wilder's competition was much weaker than AJ's and he never got destroyed by a weak fringe contender as AJ did.

 

Wilders best wins - the likes Ortiz, Stiverne, Arreola, Spzilka and Washington.

AJ best wins- Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker and Ruiz and Pulev.

It's a clear by a country mile who has beaten the far better standard of opponents (any of the mentioned AJ opponents have better resumes than any of the above). So considering Wilder best win wouldn't get into AJ best 6 opponents he has beaten, you would have to LDBC level of deluded to even think its remotely close.