Deontay Wilder vs Murat Gassiev

Get back in your box you imbecile.

 

If Wilder fought Gassiev the way he fought Stiverne, keeping light on the backfoot and popping him with the jab and one two, then he beats him by UD or late TKO. That's the way to beat Gassiev if you possess a sizeable height and reach advantage over him, since the Gasman doesn't have the greatest head movement and relies overmuch on keeping a high guard to protect himself while walking fighters down into his punch range. Basically a giant version of Abraham with more tightness in his shots.

But that version of Wilder we've seen only once, so really hard to see how he does here. It'd also be necessary to see how Gassiev himself does against a lanky heavyweight, since it's very possible this type of style matchup could be a real weakness for him.

 

Not sure why people are bringing up Szpilka here. Aside from being around a similar size (a totally meaningless consideration) they're totally stylistically different from each other. Szpilka is one of those wide stance upper body movement guys like Norton, Byrd or even Ibragimov or Chagaev (not a patch on any of them of course) while Gassiev is a high guard stalker with a regular stance and minimal application of upper body movement. Both would cause issues and be vulnerable to a different range of opponents.

 

hes just not very good at it

 

Hammer lost every round against Yoka in a terrible display. Hammer has beaten literally absolutely nobody since like three years before he fought Ortiz. Next, that’s insanity. Nobody Klitschko’s age in the HW division has EVER beat somebody as good as Joshua. If he would have won at that age it would have been one of the greatest achievements in boxing history. His performance at 41 shows he would be way more than a match in his prime (2006-2012). And against Fury, Klitschko was in terrible shape. Compare him even to himself at 41 against Joshua, he was fatter and yet weighed less than he did against Joshua due to his lack of muscle.

 

Lets wait and see what Gassiev does first. Wouldn't mind seeing him against Chisora or someone of that ilk first.

 

Ortiz is far more skilled than Gassiev, he`d destroy him.

 

Chisora did better v Usyk than Gassiev did.

 

Agreed.

 

It's been 3 years since he fought Usyk though, and it's a different weight class, different game.

Lets see how Gassiev does against a decent heavyweight. Impossible to judge him at HW yet on those performances.

 

This would be a hellish fight for Wilder because Gassiev is shorter and might give him hell on the inside where Wilder is more uncomfortable at.

If Wilder doesn't stop Gassiev i can see him losing a decision. Wilder is the better mover of the two and that might help Wilder get the win. He punches harder at different angles than Gassiev who throws deadly straights but is easier to read.

 

NO. Ortiz will lost even vs Tabiti and Dorticos because 1 simple thing: he is OLD, damn.
If he was 30 y.o young cat not senior citizen, I most likely had picked Ortiz to beat not only Gassiev, also to beat Wilder and Arreola and 33 y.o undefeated Pulev version.
Wilder had fought vs old uncle Ortiz. Long ago over the hill uncle.

Why, if he had been improved and had 2 hands + game plan to oubox, why Wilder might not had won decision vs Gassiev?
I think amateur boxer Wilder might had won decision vs Gassiev. Danger for Wilder might appear exactly if he will hope to 1 punch KO here.
Otherwise Wilder is with better reach and a bit more mobile, if he did not had get downhill after he turned into a pro, he might had outboxed a lot of pro boxers and did not had necessity to hope to land just money punch.

 

Before or after he won the title, Wilder NEVER struggled to win a 12-round decision over any unranked challenger, like Usyk did in his last outing.

Wilder knocked them all out, ranked or unranked.

Wilder was a heavyweight for six years, knocked out 32 men in a row and was rated near the top by everyone, including RING, when he won the title.

If Joshua is any good, Usyk should last about as long as Spinks did against Tyson or Foster against Frazier.

Usyk has done squat at heavyweight.

 

Gassiev too stiff and lacks head movement, two serious flaws in HW. Has a great chin, but Wilder touches it hard and often.

Wilder by KO.

 

Wilder knocked out 32 men- yeah against cherry picked opposition. Like Jeff Lacey before stepped up in quality of opposition and fought Calzaghe.

On your comparison for Spinks vs Tyson (despite Usyk beating a better quality of HW than Wilder has done in his career in Chisora). What about Holyfield and his HW peformances against the likes of Foreman, Holmes , Bowe, Mercer, Tyson etc?