Deontay Wilder vs Murat Gassiev

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Sep 1, 2021.


Who wins

  1. Wilder Knockout

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  2. Wilder Decision

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  3. Gassiev Knockout

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  4. Gassiev Decision

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  5. Draw

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dude, Chisora was a "cherry pick" for Usyk. And Usyk was lucky to get a 12-round decision.

    Wilder knocked out all the contenders, all non-contenders and all cherry picks. Wilder has knocked out everyone but the current 6'9', 270-pound World Heavyweight Champion.

    You attempting to bash him for destroying everyone but the current World champ, who Wilder flattened twice and DREW with, is dumb.

    You can't do better than knock everyone out. That's all Wilder has done in his career is knock everyone he's fought out ... except the #1 heavyweight in the world right now in Fury ... and Wilder may very well do that next month.

    Get your head out of rear. The guy is an all-time great KO puncher. You can live the rest of your life and never see power like this again.

    Appreciate him.

    Because it's getting boring waiting for you slow pokes to catch up.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Spinks beat Holmes. Usyk barely got past freaking unranked Chisora.

    I know you guys are addicted to Matchroom hype and Matchroom boxing and anything Matchroom, but Chisora isn't Larry Holmes.

    Chisora has spent nearly his entire career out of the top 10. He's fringe. And Usyk barely got by him.

    Joshua is in his prime. He's a big banger. He'll have a 20 or 30 pound weight advantage. If he's worth his salt, he should waste Usyk, like Tyson did to Spinks, like Frazier did to Foster, like Louis did to Lewis.

    There have been 60 or more cruiserweight champs. Two of them won heavyweight belts. So don't hold your breath.

    If Usyk thought he was good enough to win the heavyweight title, he'd have campaigned as a heavyweight, like he did in the World Series of Boxing, instead of waiting until the end of his career to give a go.

    Instead, he went after easier pickings at cruiser. That tells you all you need to know.

    And Gassiev isn't even remotely as good as Uysk.
     
  3. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Gassiev has beaten no one to suggest he can beat Wilder. Wilder by KO.
     
  4. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chisora has a better career win than Wilder best win Ortiz has. So if he is a soft cherry pick it says a lot about Wilders resume.

    You have one champion fighting the likes of Wlad, Povetkin, Takam, Parker, Ruiz, Pulev, Usyk and the other fighting the likes Stiverne, Duhaupas, Spzilka, Washington, Arreola, Ortiz and Fury - notice the massive between quality and depth between the two different sets of opponents?

    Wilder failed to even attempt to unify the divison even turning multiple fights down from Wlad and AJ. Even turning down big paydays against proven fighters in Whyte and Chisora to fight much poorer opposition.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And which one of those guys is better than Tyson Fury again?

    Wilder is fighting Fury for the third time.

    Fury would be the best opponent of Joshua's career. Correct? (Nod your head yes.)

    One guy (Wilder) is fighting the best over and over. The other guy is fighting the fifth best. Or the 10th best.

    Five fights with Fury and Ortiz in the last three years alone is better than all the one-offs against Parker and Pulev and that collection.

    Doesn't compare.

    And now I see you're on to comparing Wilder and Joshua ... and forgotten all about Gassiev. Because Wilder-Gassiev is a joke.

    Gassiev would qualify as one of Wilder's WORST opponents in years, as would Chisora. A Monumental step down.
     
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  6. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well we are yet establish how good a past his prime post retirement Fury actually is as he hasn't beaten anyone proven against top quality's fighter since pre retirement since beating Wlad and went life death with Wallin.

    The Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz and Pulev all have superior resumes to Ortiz which is the Wilders best win.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's funny, to bash Wilder, you're claiming Wilder fighting the BEST HEAVYWEIGHT ON THE PLANET right now FOR THE THIRD TIME is somehow not a quality opponent.

    But Pulev was?

    Catch up! I don't know how you guys can even type this stuff. It's embarrassing.

    Only in your "fantasy world" (where Wilder sucks) is the current World Heavyweight Champion unproven but Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker are studs.

    It boggles the mind.

    You do know Parker is a Tyson Fury hired hand these days, right?
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder hasn't Fury. Got bashed up by post retirement Fury who has yet to test himself since coming out retirement against one of guys with the top resumes in the divison.

    Pulev's resume is still better than Ortiz.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The top guy in the division is Tyson Fury.

    Tyson Fury is the World Heavyweight Champion.

    Deontay Wilder will fight the best heavyweight in the whole division for the third time next month.

    Deontay Wilder will become the World Heavyweight Champion if he knocks out Fury next month.

    Those are the only two guys in the division who matter right now.

    Joshua has never faced anyone as good as Fury. Povetkin is retired. Pulev is essentially retired. Parker is a sparring partner for Fury. Usyk is only the 10th rated contender by Ring. Gassiev doesn't exist at heavyweight.

    Whatever you have cooked up in your mind is 100 percent wrong.

    You've shown in your posts that whatever you think is correct, the opposite is true.

    When you feel like typing something, type the opposite. You'll probably be more accurate.

    Let me know when you catch up. I can't argue with nitwits all day.
     
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  10. Mitch87

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    Fury has the WBC. AJ has the WBA, WbO and IBF.

    Fury hasnt has fought anyone since coming out retirement with a proven quality resume since wlad over 5 years pre retirement.

    Wilder only fought Fury as he looked very poor and out of shape in his 2 come back fights against journeymen. Wilder even admitted that he turned down more money to fight AJ because he felt sorry for Fury (so basically admitted he viewed Fury as easy touch - Got it wrong and couldn't be a past his prime Fury).

    Fact remains my point - AJ has beaten half dozen guys with better resumes than Wilders best win in Ortiz.
     
  11. mark ant

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    Has Gassiev shown improvement? Why would he be better at heavyweight?
     
  12. mark ant

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    Holmes was 35 and nowhere near his peak.
     
  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Classic KO and HW boxing fanatic post.
    1. Chisora had been damn well managed and most likely already had earned more than Usyk, Ortiz and Loma together.
    Since he had lost title fight vs 40 y.o over the hill uncle Vitali, his stocks only had raised. He get next fight vs Haye after this and sorry, you might think what you wish about Chisora, his last fights were vs Parker and Usyk for very good paychecks.
    Chisora had amazing career and might afford not to care about posts in internet about him.


    Interestingly who had agreed to fight vs prime Usyk?
    Not cos he was ATG or like this.
    Even for his first CW World Title he was forced to fight in opponent's country vs tickets seller.
    Do you really think they might had afforded to book the same Chisora to fight vs Usyk then? When he was not well known.
    U show me some US boxer who had won his first world title while fighting in europe?
    U dont know beacuse you most likely do not know who Cunningham is. It was " puny cruiserweight ".

    Ohh, yeah, easy picking with undefeated champs in their physical prime, for sure damn easy fights for Usyk.
    Oldest boxer Usyk had beated at CW in his title fights was 35 y.o Bellew.
    While dudes like Wilder and A.J are proven, mature and experienced specialists to beat uncles in title fights. :D
     
  14. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Next thing I will tell here once and again.
    I do know that a lot of boxing fans worship KOs and TKOs. Usyk had won vs Chisora 8 rounds, 1 round draw and 3 rounds had won Chisora.

    Great boxers like Pacman, Floyd Jr, Mosley, Oscar DLH, Ward, Trinidad, Ali, Holmes, Holyfield, Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier, Tyson and bunch with other greats had fights that ended on judges cards. :nonono

    KO artist Wilder sorry, KO worshiping lads, not likely was even close to these boxers.

    Serious boxing fans value skills regardless from boxer's weight and origin. They does not resemble pro boxing with h2h da tech streetZ dreams.
    Btw, sorry, h2h Spong and Huck will have more chances than Wilder, Usyk, A.J or Fury. Damn, after these pro boxing heroes will ate few kicks, world will be different.

    Cruiserweight division is overlooked in US: Cunningham had to fight for titles in europe when he was up comer, Tabiti and Dorticos too.
    Even Hunter had his chance to get WBO World title only cos he get fight vs the same " bad " Usyk. Easy cherry pick in undefeated in prime shape Hunter's version, for sure no doubts how cool " cherry pick ".
     
  15. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Usyk won 9-3 over Chisora, he wasn’t lucky to get the decision at all. Have you actually watched the fight?
     
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