Deontay Wilder vs Prime Michael Dokes

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Wilder would take Dokes out early.
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Wilder gets massively underrated around these parts!
     
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  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Ha! No such thing! Just like great fighters fans who go at breakneck speed often slow down at some point.
     
  4. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dokes by 5th round TKO. Legit tough guy and Deontay couldn't handle the speed.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ha Ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Aaaaaaa HAHA HA HA HA HA HA Ha.

    I have a side ache. Thanks. Good times.
     
  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well Fury was the only fighter he faced that could actually fight could be the answer as well as some of the nonsense your writing.
    Wilders skill is overrated, his power is overrated, and if you don't see he throw wild round house, telegraphed punches that would've been easily seen by skilled fighters of years past , yes even Michael Dokes. Your seeing what you to believe. That simple.
    Now what's his latest excuse? Fired managers? Check, Fury cheated? Check. Costume to heavy? Check, Trainer didn't know how to train him? Check......
    Sounds like the bully but a coward syndrome to me.
     
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  7. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He can't handle defeat

    I think Wilder catches Dokes late and gets him out of there ... Ruddock stopped him and I think Wilder can eventually catch him
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The nonsense I'm writing? (LOL)

    Who knew Jeff Sims could've been WBC heavyweight champion for half a decade and made nearly a dozen title defenses if he was just born 30 years later and was fighting in this era?

    What could Larry Alexander, Phil Jackson, Jose Ribalta and everyone who beat Sims have been if they were born 30 years later, too? Should Fury and Joshua be thanking their lucky stars Jeff Sims and Larry Alexander aren't prowling around these days?

    Christ. (LOL HA HAHA HA HA)

    This place, man.
     
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  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you believe Wilder is a better fighter than Ruddock? I don't . Wilder hits hard. That about it. And also, let's be fair to Dokes just a little bit.
    Everyone knows by time Dokes was fighting Ruddock, his career was more about nose candy than boxing.
    Dokes had the talent to be very good. He himself has no one to blame but himself for the way his career crashed and burned.
    Wilder on the other hand doesn't have half of the ability of prime M.Dokes.
    At least not in my eyes, and I've watched both fighters at the top of their games.
    Wilder is just an overrated power puncher, hell, even Earnie Shavers set up his opponents. Wilder is a product of a very weak era in heavyweight boxing, and boxing in general.
     
  10. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jeff Sims probably could be a champion in this era. And he was never ranked in the top ten in his own era. Your Lol's are only a distraction to yourself. That means nothing to me.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

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    If Wilder would've been Jeff Sims, who would the 6'9" 270 pound world champ Fury and three-belt champ Joshua have been if they were fighting in Jeff Sims' era? Lorenzo Zanon and John L. Gardner?
     
  12. Dubblechin

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    AHHHH HAHAHHHAAHAHHHHAAAA!!!!!!

    Please stop. I'm going to **** my pants.
     
  13. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You make a good point and I agree ... If Dokes can neutralize the right hand he's getting the decision comfortably. ...

    Wilder is not a better boxer or fighter than Dokes or Ruddock .... But can Dokes survive his right hand if it lands? That's the only question and the same question in all of Wilders fights ... Wilder is champion because he's in this era of boxing ... In other eras I don't see him being more than a fringe contendor
     
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  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's my point, sure he hits hard, but thousands of fringe contenders have over the years , and I'm positively sure if he or they landed cleanly on a prime Dokes and many other contenders/ champs he hurts them. No doubt about that.
    But thats the issue . Its not like an opponent is just going to just stand their and allow themselves to be K'oed. That's where in my opinion the problems start for Wilder, when he telegraphed the looping right hand against skilled opponents, when he pushes that jab and drops it down to his waist, when he is off balance and reaching for the opponent with punches, when he doesn't set up his offense.
    His legs went out like a new born colt in 5rds. Against Fury, and he isn't anything like a devastating puncher, yet Wilder was floundering like a fish out of water against him.
    His defense is basically lean away, and throw up his arms . He doesn't slip, or parry, much less slip and counter.
    Wilder isn't nothing to be bragging about as some do. He is very lucky to fight in this era in my opinion.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Absolutely. The guy was never the legit champion regardless. He may have been top #3 in the real world (Joshua beat plenty of legit top 10 contenders) but a bit more proof would have been nice. I look forward to his upcoming efforts.
     
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