Deontay Wilder will never be the real HW champion unless he fights and defeats Anthony Joshua

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  1. boxinggenuis

    boxinggenuis Member Full Member

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    Lol. Yeah right. AJ is at number three at the number. But Wilder and Fury is ahead of him right now.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Poppycock.

    AJ's win over Wlad>>This post industrial scale drug abuse three years spent in the wilderness shell of Fury who has fought one fighter with a pulse in almost 4.5 years.

    AJ's win over Povetkin>>this version of Fury

    This version of Fury nearly lost to a nondescript viking that nobody even in the gyms of Sweden had ever heard of before, had said Viking won would we rank him #1 because he had a single better win than Bootleg D?

    Bootleg D is undefeated in name only and the only reason he still has his zero is because of corruption so, yes, he does have an embarrassing loss too - to the drug-ravaged inactive suicidal shell of Fury who looked like absolute dog**** in his 2 exhibition fights against bums and who only took the fight to try and distract his mind from his mental health problems. His dad still won't speak to Fury's team to this day for allowing him to take the fight. Losing to that version of Fury isn't just embarrassing it's never show your face in public again or disappear to a remote island never to reappear embarrassing.

    If Fury could punch like Ruiz even that shell of him would've sparked Bootleg D out cold.

    AJ's wins

    Wlad = 80 points
    Povetkin = 75 points
    Parker = 65 points
    Whyte = 65 points
    Ruiz = 60 points

    Loss against Ruiz away - 100 points

    Bootleg D

    Ortiz = 50 points
    Stiverne = 40 points

    Loss to the inactive drug-ravaged suicidal shell of Fury - 1000 points and - an additional 300 points for losing at home

    So however you swing it AJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bootleg D
     
  3. Serge

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  4. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a joke. Fury is as good as he's ever been, and as you'll recall pre-Wlad (e.g., Cunningham) he did not appear to be a worldbeater. He's the same as ever.

    Arguing that beating Fury would be less significant than defeating a faded, juice-free Povetkin makes your argument nonsensical and not worth the time.

    But hey, I admire your ability to pull numbers out of your ******* to support your bogus argument.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The winner Saturday between the top two undefeated heavyweights in the division will officially be the HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD and will join the list of greats who held that distinction.

    And, Saturday, Joshua will join the list of beltholders like Bruce Seldon, Frans Botha, and Michael Dokes who reigned as strapholders while another man was recognized as the WORLD champ.

    Maybe Joshua, Ruiz, Seldon and Botha can all watch the fight and Andy's place?

    Joshua and Ruiz can talk about how they have all the same belts in their trophy case and how awesome that is ... and Seldon can debate with Joshua over which of them folded from a lighter punch.

    I'm sure it would be a real bonding experience, since they're all linked in history together.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Funny how Ali was never the same (and yes I know some might take offence at me mentioning Ali's name in the same breath as Fury's but I couldn't care less) after 3 years of inactivity.

    Tyson (Michael) was never the same after his long spell of inactivity

    But Tyson ''The Gypsy King'' Fury OBE not only was completely unaffected by being out for 3 years but is in fact actually better than ever despite the fact that he spent the entirety of his inactivity drinking enough booze a night to kill a thousand alcoholics, snorting enough coke a night to bury 100 rock stars, and putting away enough junk food to feed the population of China and had to shed 147lbs of flab after ballooning up to over 400lbs.

    And in addition to that, as if that isn't bad enough and by god is it terrible, he was battling severe depression, suffered a nervous breakdown, and came close to committing suicide. Un-****ing-believable

    And this 40 y/0 Povetkin of today would be Bootleg D's best win still to this day given how a juice free Luis Ortiz who was a couple of weeks shy of his 39th birthday in their first fight is. Ortiz is garbage lol
     
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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The excuses have already started **** off.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Shut up troll.
     
  9. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only reason Wilder fought Fury in the first place was because he thought Fury wouldn't be ready. He never would have fought an active Fury minus the mental health and addiction recovery! He'd be looking for more Duhaupas's and Molina's to feast on.
     
  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thing is, we can judge them in the ring. Fury was the same against Wilder as he was Wladimir. Same fighter, same game plan. I agree he is likely to reduce his prime based on those antics, tho.

    We know Ali declined because we could see it. Mike Tyson, I disagree. He was just overrated a bit that whole time, but that's a different thread.

    Some of you guys are so dug in to your arguments that you have abandoned all rationality. I'm okay with being wrong. For example, I thought Joshua was making a mistake to go straight back to Ruiz. But he came through like a champion and I like him more now than I ever did previously.
     
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  11. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So why is he fighting him a second time, if he's so scared? Especially since most of us agree he lost.
     
  12. Bustajay

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    AJ is frozen—-3 belts...YAWN
    This weekend defines and decides who is the People’s HW champ of the WORLD

    PS @IsaL dreams of eating tainted Mexican meat with his mouth and throat wide open so if not Canelo then maybe he will take Ruiz:rolleyes:
     
  13. IsaL

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    I'm not flattered by the amount of attention you're giving me today.
     
  14. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whoever wins this fight will be the clear cut #1 fighter in the HW division. They can nail that point even further by winning the trilogy fight afterward.

    Let's see how things unfold for Joshua in 2020. Fighting Pulev is unimpressive; it seems evident to anyone who knows boxing that Usyk is more of a dangerous proposition. He'd have to drop one of his belts for either mandatory so he clearly is going for the path of least resistance.

    I wasn't very impressed with how he won back his titles either. I think he's a talented HW but that 1st Ruiz fight has made him look apprehensive in engaging.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Nah Fury is not the same. No one could be after the industrial abuse he put his body through during his 2.5 years of inactivity. He looked awful against tomato can CW Serferi, shot to bit Pianeta, and nondescript viking Wallin. The only reason people think he looked good against Bootleg D is because the later is a low skill windmilling can crushing uncoordinated baffoon who can't box to save his life and has rarely ever fought anyone who possesses any semblance of skill and on the three occasions he has he's been totally outboxed and made to look a fool even though one of his opponents was a senior citizen (2 weeks shy of their 39th birthday in the first fight and almost 41 for the rematch), and the other was a drug-raved inactive bipolar mess who hadn't fought anyone with a pulse in three years. Fury only looked half decent again binman Schwarz.
     
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