Deontay Wilder

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  1. Aitche

    Aitche Member Full Member

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    As of Oct 15, 2022... we can now say NO ONE can beat the Bomber (except for one man)!

    Even Hellacious Helenius knows it
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Joyce can beat him but them first 4 rounds will be very dangerous.

    Think Wilder will break his hand off that dome. He needs to catch Joyce's head at an angle not straight on.

    People think Wilde & Fury beat some life off each other they actually beat life into each other. Both will have near to no worries about any of their future opponents.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joyce would have a very decent chance, and I’d make Usyk a significant favourite.

    I’d even give Ruiz a chance too.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    If Wilder touches Usyk it will be over.

    The chances of Wilder not touching you are as little as Michael Jackson not touching a child at neverland ranch.
     
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  5. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Joshua can beat him, but it’s a whoever lands first type of fight
     
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  6. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Stiverne made it the distance
    Molina made it to 11
    Duhaupas made it to 11 (and was stopped on his feet)
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Broke his hand against Bumane as he has done many times...Molina was the next bout could not afford to break it...

    He could break his hand every fight if he was unlucky enough. It's a real indicator of his power.
     
  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stiverne was dropped for the first time in his career in the 2nd round but managed to mask it by rugby tackling Wilder, an unusually spirited Molina made it to 9 in a career worst performance for Wilder, Duhaupas was stopped for the first time in his career and wasn't stopped by prime versions of Teper or Miller. Fighters can also go late or the distance due to conservatism even if they have the power to end it sooner, Wlad was like this.

    But I agree that it's incorrect that Wilder just has to touch Usyk and it's all over. To KO Usyk he'd have to at least land a flush right hand on the chin like the one he landed on Szpilka and Usyk is obviously levels above Szpilka.
     
  9. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Firstly, I would like to apologize for my mistake, I will edit my claim of Molina making it to the 11th.

    As far as the rest of it, I would argue that 1. Wilder isn't like Wladimir whatsoever. He doesn't try to grab and clinch his way to victory. His goal is to knock you out the entire time, every round, waiting for an opportunity. 2. Stiverne had not fought a world class boxer prior to Wilder, so I think his chin statistics prior to the Wilder fight are irrelevant. (I would say Arreola was not still world class at the time Stiverne fought him.) Admittedly the Wilder fight made it obvious he did at least at that time have a good chin.

    The rest is in the way you say it is.
     
  10. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder and Wlad are not the same stylistically ofc but they're both happy to take their time. Against Stiverne the first time Wilder was largely content to jab his head off. Similar story against Arreola. Against opponents showing him a lot of movement, Wilder's volume drops and he likes to go rounds before unloading. Ortiz went 7 rounds in the rematch but how many big shots did Wilder catch him with prior to putting him out with a flush shot to the forehead? Very few if any. Rounds are often not a good measure of power as style and approach play a huge role.

    It's true that Stiverne hadn't fought anyone world class in 26 pro bouts prior to Wilder but the fact that he hadn't been dropped by anyone is still indicative of a good chin, especially as Stiverne would frequently turn up in poor shape and was thus ripe to get knocked down. Many far better HW's than Stiverne have been put down by non-world class opposition.
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dumb thread.

    Wilder loses to Fury, Usyk, Joshua, Joyce, and maybe Ruiz. We shall see.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk would give him angles he’s never seen before.

    An extremely elusive target.

    It would be very difficult for him to land his power shots.
     
  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    angles?

    Fury has a 6'9" protractor

    The headmovement and footspeed is the only issue and Fury will easily negate them

    Usyk has always liked to jib and jab in front of opponents then wear them down, cant do it with heavies but his workrate and footspeed gives him success. not against big tyson.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was talking about Usyk vs Wilder.
     
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  15. kiwi_boxer

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    - Fury
    - Usyk
    - 25lb suit
    - Joshua
    - Joyce
    - Egg weights

    All absolutely embarrass the Lions Den hero.

    Wilders is so limited, Whyte is a 50/50 fight at this stage...