Deontay Wilder's 'Athleticism'.

Yeah a moron would say that, good thing I didn't say that. A 6 ft 9 boxer that weighs 256 pounds couldnt knock out an underweight 6 ft 7 boxer. And the former is being labelled "athletic" that is bull****. An athletic boxer of that size would have no problems getting a knockdown at the very least... given Furys ability to land.

Have you ever done athletics before? I have... I competed... and I know wtf im talking about. Fury aint got dem dere genes to generate that speed and momentum. I've done discus and javelin and I know EXACTLY how power is generated... and if the tip of that berg hits someone they are getting knocked the **** out.

And Fury can't even achieve that againt underweight wilder???

 

Why can't Wilder throw punches without falling over his own feet?

 

That's a whole combinations of things like bad footwork... top heavy frame.... too much torque and power generated with long limbs... power to weight ratio.

Regardless... 39 KO's is all YOU need to know.

 

So he lacks agility, has an imbalanced torso, and can't control his movements?

Yes, that's told me a lot.

 

agility
/əˈdʒɪlɪti/
noun

1. ability to move quickly and easily.

Nope he definitely has agility. But you are correct on the last two attributes.

Btw can you dunk?

 

More than anything I think this highlights the useless and unqualifiable nature of "athleticism".

Really a 10,000m has little in common with a hammer thrower. You're better focusing on spefic things, like expolsiveness, coordination, reaction time, stamina, strength, etc.

I think Wilder was considered athletic because he showed good speed, explosiveness, and stamina (though it looked poor against Fury).

Fury is not explosive, and also has punching technique that doesn't maximise power, he did have good stamina, but it's been understandablty weakened, he's very fast on his feet given his size and has quick reactions. His boxing brain is probably his biggest asset though. He wasted way less energy than Wilder, and while I thought he was crazy for showboating after getting knocked down, it was actually a clever way to stop Wilder trying to capitalise.

 

Well that rules Wilder out then.

No. I'm a shortass. I'm sure Valuev and Julius Long could though.

 

Lack of athleticism you mean

 

I dunno... Wilder is very athletic for a big man. But as I wrote before that doesn't equal being a great athlete. Wilder's biggest problem is his pathetic skill set. His punches are all wrong, his setup is non-existent, which makes it all the more appalling that he can't use his athletism to his advantage. A good example of this as I linked earlier is Javale McGee in the NBA. For a 7 footer he can run the floor with the guards, the most hops of any big man, and as agile as a forward, except he has no basketball IQ and doesn't know how to control his frame. Adding to this he cannot handle the ball worth a damn, but that doesn't stop him as he will run the floor cuz in his mind he is a super baller running coast to coast. It's much the same problem with Wilder, he was gifted with those attributes but he doesn't know how to use them, a fraction of his potential and he ends up looking like a fool. His nickname is Windmills, that should tell us all we need to know lol.

Imagine a Wilder with Fury's skill set. Now that's something.

 

Well Sanders was a golf pro in addition to being a world class boxer so on that basis you'd have to give it to him. Plus, he'd frequently turn up to fights grossly out of shape and still give problems to some of the best HWs in the world. If Joshua half-assed it in training and came to the ring with a dad bod whilst focusing his attentions outside the ring on a secondary sport do you think he'd have the same level of success against someone like Fury or even old Wlad?

 

he's fast as **** and hits very hard= athleticism

 

I've found some Wilder measurements here: [url]https://celebvogue.com/american-boxer-deontay-wilder-wiki-bio-age-body-measurements-affairs-net-worth/[/url]

34 inch waist, 35 inch hips.

Against Stiverne at 226 lbs his waist was 36 inch and thighs were 18 inch so 37 inch hips then would be logic.

So between his high and low weights Wilder's hips pendle between 35 and 37 inches and thighs between 17" and 18". Thats very small for someone that is 6'6"-6'7" feet tall.

 

Where is he fast? What exactly is fast about Deontay?

Definitely not his footwork. He's flatfooted. Definitely not his punches, he telegraphes them from a mile away. So what exactly is fast about him?