Deontay Wilder's 'Athleticism'.

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  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Wilder has exceptional fast feet regarding lineal footspeed. Back and forth so to speak. But poor balance and lateral movement. So in his 1-2's he covers distance really fast. But then he get out of balance and struggles to move out of the way in the pocket thus looking slow and sluggish when trying to reset his wide stance.

    Its like he leapfrogs in with sprinkles under his toes. Great for getting in fast but poor for reset and get out of the way.
     
  2. chico g

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    Merry Xmas Deontay, thanks for inviting me and Tiny Tim for christmas day dinner. It was a pleasure meeting Al, Shelly, Di Bella and the bomb squad. I especially enjoyed the mince pies, and the Christmas cracker jokes. Looking forward to seeing you fight Breazeale next year. Don't worry about rematching Fury. Your claim on lineal champion is intact. The bodybuilder has to give you 50% now. Lol.
     
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  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    faster than most big guys stop being obtuse
     
  4. SmackDaBum

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    To some extent I also think its because he is lighter than most men of his own height.

    Look at Helenius and Breazeale as examples. Both around his height 6'6"-6'7" and same wide stance stylisticly but they weigh alot more. If Wilder gain weight he is bound o get slower due to his wide stance.
     
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  5. ertwin

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    It is ridiculous how much hate wilder gets. If wilder has horrible technique and is not athletic, then we can say he is nothing but a bum with strong right and therefore fury almost got koed by a bum.
    I think people are going to see how good wilder is once he knocks out aj in 5 and they will realize that fury is not from this planet.

    If wilder would have started boxing at age 11 i would be 100% certain that he would be an absolute hw atg. His explosiveness is surreal.
     
  6. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    The only thing athletic about wilder is his build.
     
  7. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's a good raw athlete but his extremely low IQ makes it hard for him to learn and incorporate new skills.
     
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  8. It's Ovah

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    TBF, he's pretty fast for a HW and has good explosiveness. He can cover distance quite quickly with his forward skimming leaps and launch punches with savage intensity on the inside (see Duhaupas fight). He's not otherworldly fast, and his lack of motor control often has him throwing himself off balance with shots that don't hit the target and sometimes even those that do, which means he sucks in combination because he basically has to reset every time he throws a shot. That's more a function of his wack style and go for the KO mentality though.

    Still, I think it's telling that he's been able to succeed despite his terrible footwork and telegraphing, as a slower fighter wouldn't have been able to get away with half of what he does on a regular basis. In that respect I can see why some posters think that he's athletic. If that's all they mean by the term then I can't argue with them really, but for me the term "athletic" is thrown around too loosely for a certain type of fighter, regardless of their deficiencies in other areas, and for me it's an abuse of the word.

    A fighter that's fast and powerful but uncoordinated and prone to gassing is no more an athlete than a slowish fighter that's highly coordinated and can throw pitter-pat punches for days. They both demonstrate certain aspects of athleticism without being the full package.
     
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  9. Heavyrighthand

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    LOL

    Funny But probably true


    wilder comes across as a 17-year-old imbecile with his juvenile pr lines
     
  10. It's Ovah

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    This is it in a nutshell, really. Wilder has a ton of raw attributes that few fighters in the division currently possess. He's fast, explosive, seems to have really good stamina for a guy who basically sells out on every shot and throws multiple per round, kinda quick on his feet, and seems to have decent reactive speed that he can maintain throughout the course of a fight. But he lacks coordination, balance, and the ability to adapt, as well as being seemingly unable to ingrain any sorts of semi-complex movement patterns into his style. That's why I can't call him a great athlete. You need motor control as well as raw physicality to be considered truly athletically gifted.
     
  11. SmackDaBum

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    Regarding the Fury-fight i must also give Wilder some credits due to his stamina recovery ability. He threw from the ground all night and that is very exhausting. But he recovered fast after his right hand attempts even in the late rounds.

    Although If Fury used his weight and strength a bit more that would have negated Wilder's stamina to recover enough for his right hand to be dangerous in the mid to late rounds.

    That's also why I believe Joshua would simply bully him into exhaustion and ineffectiveness with his bull rushes.
     
  12. Gomo

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    Althetic to me means explosive power...which I believe he has.

    Most athletes (apart from endurance athletes) rely on explosive power, whether its running, swimming, jumping, throwing, etc etc.
     
  13. Sugar 88

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    He must have been visited by three neutral judges on Christmas Eve.
     
  14. It's Ovah

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    Most athletes also rely on coordination, which Wilder doesn't have.
     
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  15. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Define 'explosiveness' please!