Deontay Wilder's legacy will age poorly for the years to come

Yeah cause his record is padded.
Its basically the Randall Bailey of the hw division.

 

Basically a Shannon Briggs with more power and reach.

 

I think it's safe to say that Wilder, Joshua, and Fury will be looked at as top fighters in a very weak HW era, and will never be considered top HWs all time.

 

About as well as G

 

Good thread.

Tua beat four titlists: Moorer, Ruiz, Rahmen and Maskaev to be specific. Wilder's reputation is not in Tua's ballpark, in my opinion, just because he held a fake title and defended it against guys who are probably not even the best fighters in their own houses.

Ruddock is a good parallel. He beat a couple of good guys, but mostly lost when he stepped up, and his reputation is based on perceived punching power, notably in the Dokes fight.

 

True. People in the future will remember him as a can crusher, hype job or a one trick pony.

 

I think it will get worse.

He's also just had more surgery on his hand after it broke again in the third Fury fight.

He's lost to the best man in the division arguably 3 times and he lost in a brutal stoppage in a tough fight he may not recover from.

I don't think he could redeem himself at this point unless he performs a miracle. A miracle would be him bouncing back knocking out Joshua, beating Usyk and avenging his defeats to Fury. He might still be able to knockout Joshua but he wouldn't beat Usyk or Fury.

He's a broken boxer. His hands are in bits and he probably should have used different gloves in his last fight. If his injuries keep plaguing him then he should probably retire because i don't think it's ever going to be possible for him to become a better boxer.

In a good scenario for Wilder's future he somewhat bounces back beating the likes of Whyte, Parker, Ruiz Jr and Wallin type opponents. He then gets a shot at a beltholder again. He would redeem himself to an extent. If he can beat those types of opponents and then fight someone like Anthony Joshua and win then he'd redeem himself and only be third behind Usyk and Fury.

He's 36 years old so it's more likely to be downhill from here especially with the injuries he's had and the beating he took from Fury in the last fight.

 

Wilder is in the top 5 all time for worst Heavyweight boxer to hold the WBC title
Literally the first time he fought someone that was ranked higher than 15th in the world he got put on skates and the ref gave him at least 20 seconds extra time to heal and still almost lost to the 87 year old dinosaur
The second time he fought someone that actually had a resume that was better than a cab drivers, he got beat. Also by the way this said person came back after a 2 year cocaine filled layoff and obesity run and still beat him
Proceeds to get raped in the rematch
Makes maybe every excuse that could be made after being raped
Gets a new trainer, trains as hard as he ever has trained, literally knew what to do and what not to do, couple that with Fury getting Covid, being in the hospital for the birth of his daughter, clearly not in that great of shape and STILL gets steamrolled

 

If he beats two of Whyte, Parker and Ruiz Jr. all is forgiven quite frankly (in terms of lack of resume, at least)

 

He will probably be remembered roughly where Shavers (an overrated fighter, IMO) is. Everybody loves a puncher, and Deontay showed a lot of heart in Fury 3, which fans also like to see.

Time tends to dull a lot of the day-to-day annoyances that people have with fighters in the heat of the moment. Just as many people are giving Klitschko a more favorable hearing now that he's retired, so too Wilder's weird excuses, rude behavior, etc. will probably not count heavily against him.

If anything, he's only likely to get burned at the stake for being perceived as preventing a Fury/Joshua unification. Classic boxing fans are real peevish about their lineal championship fetish.

 

i never ranked him among top fighters...cause he cant fight. he can punch, with one hand, but he cant fight. i even described pretty much how he would be beat. and furys trainers saw what i saw and sent him out to do just that. and seeing how he is untrainable, at least at this level, hes pretty much done making noise.

 

Unless he does something in his next couple of fights he won't be that much ahead of Shavers. He is certainly less susceptible to losing to lower level guys but Shavers has wins over a top 4 and top 3 Ring rated contender and his big knockdown of Larry Holmes is favorable to Wilders KD's and gift draw against Fury in their first fight. He was also impressive vs an aging Ali. Will he turn out to be just a modern version more consistent version of Shavers? He's never been lineal of the best in the world and defenses of a paper title against poor opposition only go so far for the educated. The jury is out.