Deontay's carefully crafted record

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  1. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Check out Wilder's carefully crafted record. Here is a look at his last ten fights and his opponents' ages. The first number is the age of his opponent at the time they fought and the second number is his age. The ONLY fighter he fought who was younger was Szpilka. Some of these fighters were decent fighters at one point in their respective careers but by the time Wilder fought them they were clearly on the decline. By comparison, AJ would be the first top fighter he would face in his prime, four years younger than Deontay.

    Ortiz 39-32
    Stiverne 38-32
    Washington 35-31
    Arreola 35-30
    Szpilka 27-30
    Duhaupas 34-29
    Molina 33-29
    Stiverne 36-29
    Gavern 38-28
    Scott 34-28
     
  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Defo cherry picked his way to riches. Last opponent by far his toughest but he only fought him because he looked washed up vs Scuba Scott.
     
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  3. underwraps

    underwraps Active Member Full Member

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    Not a fan at all. I see what you mean, but he has improved and he is the most dangerous heavy out there at this time. His team have cherry picked, but now i think he has a 50/50 chance against the best heavy at the moment, and his team know it..
    Tall,long,fast,engine and probably hits as hard as any heavy. He has been protected, but you could say his team has done a good job for him. Having said that, i hope AJ starches him.
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The only guy Joshua has fought who was younger than him was in Joshua's last fight.

    Skelton - 47 years old
    Wlad - 41 years old
    Sprott - 39 years old
    Avila - 39 years old
    Gavern - 39 years old
    Legg - 38 years old
    Butlin - 37 years old
    Takam - 36 years old
    Airich - 36 years old
    Kevin Johnson - 35 years old
    Bakhtov - 35 years old
    Molina -34 years old
    Zumbano - 34 years old
     
  5. Accurate

    Accurate Jump back, wanna kiss myself! Full Member

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    The vast majority of fighters with proper promoters/backing cherry pick. It's just part of the game, unfortunately.
     
  6. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Breazeale was 30 when they fought and was undefeated with 16 KO's in 17 fights. Martin was 23-0-1 with 22 KO's and was 29 years old. Dillian Whyte, 21-0 and only 28 at the time. Gary Cornish, 21-0 and only 28 at the time. All of these guys were undefeated and in their prime. AJ's opponents, I would argue, are a step above Wilder's. AJ has elevated his comp as he has moved up the ladder, as one would expect. Wilder, not so much.
     
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  7. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When I see Wilder and Lennox together, I cannot help but think Lennox might have a 2nd or 3rd round knockout over Deontay. To me Deontay could not take Lennox right hand. And I don't think he lands his much on Lennox..
     
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  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lennox is the best HW ever imo
     
  9. SuzieQ1949

    SuzieQ1949 New Member Full Member

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    And everybody was shitting on vittles for taking the Briggs fight when he was what? 36?
     
  10. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    This is the reason I have no issue with Joshua continuing to fight contenders, and leaving Wilder to finish cleaning out the bums, old men, pasty chefs, cabbies, janitors etc.
     
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  11. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    It's not a horrible resume considering how **** the division is and what his resume used to be like, but he still lacks that real step-up opponent and it doesn't matter if you KO 20 or 30 of these C types, at the end of the day without a dangerous opponent on your resume you can only pad it so much.

    Of course unluckily for him, there's only like 3 guys in the division that matter. Ortiz WOULD have been one had he faced Ortiz when he was looking dangerous and not on the way down. Got unlucky with Povetkin and it seems like he's trying with AJ so there's that, hopefully it comes to fruition.
     
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  12. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    ****ing laughable that he boxed Skelton at 47. Hearn and Joshua have no shame. Ortiz is a world class fighter and people mocked his age. Skelton was a 47 year old D-grade ex-jailbird domestic level contender who was a kick boxer primarily. Disgusting.
     
  13. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. No wealthy and well connected promoter would invest tons of money in a young prospect and then throw them to the wolves. Any fighter regardless of how talented they are will pick up some losses early in their career unless they fight cherrypicked opponents.

    I can think of tons of fighters that were ruined because they were put up against elite competition too fast. Hearn has matched Joshua very carefully just like Wilder was matched very carefully earlier in his career.
     
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  14. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Let's put it in perspective, though. He fought Skelton in his 6th pro fight, when Skelton was 28-9 with 23 KO's. As I said before, AJ is fighting tougher comp with each fight. Wilder is not. But, hey, Wilder has been brilliant working for that once-in-a-lifetime payday. Good for him.
     
  15. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah it is pretty **** but he is trying to fight Joshua so that is a good start