Dereck Chisora, closest thing to Joe Frazier in modern heavyweight division?

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does he give us the closest look of what a Prime Frazier's style would look like nowadays? Frazier has him in speed and power, and skill. But Chisora is bigger than Frazier ever was.
     
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  3. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I don't think he is much like Joe. Joe was fundamentally very sound. Moved his head well. In phenomenal shape. They both can crack but Chisora is a one-punch KO specialist. If he lands it, good night. If he doesn't he likely loses. Joe went 15 rounds hitting and getting hit the whole time.
     
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  4. devon2

    devon2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually think Andy Ruiz is way more similar to Frazier. Especially in the Joshua fight you can see him bob and come up with the left hook just like Frazier
     
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    Lol Chisora is a 1 punch KO specialist? Since when? Because he knocked out glass chin Artur Szpilka? Chisora isn't a big puncher by heavyweight standards.
     
  6. GreenLaternSucked

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    You mean Chisora is fatter than Frazier ever was? Boxers back then took care of their bodies and were always in top condition. Chisora is a lard butt who fights nothing like Frazier.
     
  7. PH1882

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    Miles apart in your comparison mate.
     
  8. Simon Head

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    Chisora does carry a lot of fat, but he is mostly muscle. Frazier was not exactly lean himself, he did carry quite a bit of fat on his body even at fighting weight. You can clearly see this by watching his fights, and in pictures.
     
  9. Libertine

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    Id have to say yes, i dont know all the heavyweights but when Chisora can be bothered to bob and weave hes probably closest,
     
  10. Simon Head

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    I don’t know why people get obsessed with how fighters look at heavyweight anyway. Ruiz jr is chubby and has stamina, fast hands and is the heavyweight champion right now.

    Yes we have chubby fighters right now, but fighters in the 70s at the top level were not all exactly lean either. Ali after the first Frazier fight fought quite a lot of fights being a bit chubby, Frazier was always a little chubby, Buster Douglas is another that comes to mind too.
     
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  11. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    The disrespect for Joe's skills is real.
     
  12. GreenLaternSucked

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    No Chisora is fat period. Frazier was in shape. You don't need abs and lats to be in great shape. That is why Joe Frazier could throw tons of punches with out tiring out. Chisora can't do this because he is a lard butt.
     
  13. Simon Head

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    Chisora has a lot of muscle, far more than Frazier, you can tell that just by looking at him.

    Frazier was in shape definitely, but he still carried fat, and was by no means lean.
     
  14. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury beat Chisora up so bad,Frazier would of gotten inside.
     
  15. GreenLaternSucked

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    Ali was 6'2 1/2 220 or less in his prime. Larry Holmes was 6'3 205 pounds in his prime. George Foreman was 6'3 230 as a 19 year old and got as low as 212 before he got back up to 231. Ken Norton was close to 6'3 and weighed around 220. Ron Lyle was 6'3 215 to 220. Jerry Quarry was 6'0 and maybe 200 to 205 pounds. If you think being 6'0 and 270 pounds like Andy Ruiz and most of the fat lard butts is as good of shape as guys from the 70s then maybe you should give up on boxing. Even Buster Douglas in his prime was listed at 6'3 230 so still in much better shape than Chisora, Jarrell Miller, Andy Ruiz and most of these current guys.

    Andy Ruiz is champion because of how bad the heavyweight division is. He looks fast because everybody else is so slow. Andy Ruiz would of never been champion in the 70's, 80's ,90's or during Wladimir Klitschko's reign. Andy Ruiz is like a poor mans Joe Hipp.