Dereck Chisora vs Jack Johnson

Which ones?

 

1910

 

no idea if the rankings will show it because of robbery loses, but chisora was easily a top 10 hw for a couple of years.

 

,QUOTE="kingfisher3, post: 18353498, member: 74401"]no idea if the rankings will show it because of robbery loses, but chisora was easily a top 10 hw for a couple of years.[/QUOTE]
I don't think so,look at his record and say when that could have been.
The only fight you can possibly call a robbery, and it was a close one ,was the Helenius one, five months prior to that Fury had beaten Chisora convincingly.

• Judge: Ian John Lewis 112-117

• Judge: Phil Edwards 112-117

• Judge: Richard James Davies 111-118

After losing to Fury and Helenius , Chisora was beaten by Vitali Klit and ko'd by Haye , he did nothing after that to warrant a top ten ranking and consequently did not get one.

 

I've pretty much been awake since Saturday so I can't be bothered to check but i'm certain helenius was top ten, if no robbery then surely del boy would have got that place.

edit - should have written loss, was only helenius I was thinking of.

no robbery, but in fairness both guys should have lost that first fury chisora fight, one of the fattest fights I've ever seen.

 

Chisora try s to batter the smaller johnson but johnson clinches the whole fight. I see a draw

 

But he didn't beat Helenius ,and even if he had, it would not have given him a top ten ranking for "a couple of years". Fury beat Chisora easily, if Chisora opted to turn up fat as a pig that was his choice, just as if he wants to get into the ring carrying 20lbs of blubber on his frame today, that is also his prerogative, and may explain why he has never been and never will be a credible factor at world level.

 

yeah, I was wrong, the timeline following the hellenius fight wouldn't have lasted for more than 7 months until the haye fight and he wasn't in any of the ring year end top tens without getting the helenius decision.

 

At that timeChisora had a 5 fight winning streak going but only Malik Scott and Kevin Johnson were , or had been briefly anybody and Johnson had lost3 of his last 4 fights and would lose his next 2.
In summary Chisora has never been a world class operator, entertaining and watchable certainly ,[ his recent fight with Whyte rescued an abysmal show],but not truly world class level imo

 

And our measure of this greatness, of this prime condition which has been ranked among the greatest ever in the division, is his dismantling of a thoroughly shot and out of practice 35 year old Jim Jeffries?

How many other heavyweights, Chisora included, would one pick to defeat the washed up Jeffries, a fighters in such poor form that Ketchel, having seen him in training, wanted to KO him during ring introductions in order to stop the inevitable offense against the White Race?