Derek Chisora is the mandatory challenger for IBF

Have IBF mandated the defense, as in forcing Dubois to defend against Chisora or drop the belt?

Or can he still do the Usyk fight first? I recall the IBF gave him a pass to fight Parker if he promised to defend straight after, is that agreement still in place even though he didn't fight.

Crack up if he though he was getting the Usyk fight and instead he has to fight Chisora.

 

Lol , after wbo called for the mandatory with parker and was payed off very well by ukraine to not enforce it , after wbc called for a mandatory with kabayel and was payed off very well by ukraine to not enforce it , i fully unterstand ibf calls now chisora-dubois to be also payed off very well to not enforce it ;-)))

Lol , it will be a meaningless but very expensive undisputed win for usyk !

 

WBC didn't call for the mandatory I hope you have any proof about paying off the bodies tho, cause that's pretty interesting alternate reality you living in.

 

What do you believe made the wbo silent ? Money ...

 

I mostly agree with you there. I think Kabayels style and the way he dismantled Zhang (even an ancient one) was still very impressive though. He also has a good win over Chisora and seems to be willing to fight anyone which I respect. We need more Kabayels and Parkers in the division imo

 

if kabayel is overhyped or not we do not know and only time will tell .

But he is interesting .

He did not beat zhang with a lucky punch but brutalized his body until zhang collapsed . to make zhang collapse is not easy .

That gives at least the impression he has the potential to be very unpleasant to anybody and thats exactly what it should be : the excitement in this sport .

Thats why everybody wants kabayel

 

WBO isn't silent. They gave both sides a 30 day period to contract the fight, as they always do.

 

Kabayel beat Chisora convincingly years ago and just destroyed Zhang who destroyed Joyce who's pretty much Chisora's best win of his whole career.

Yet Chisora gets infront of the likes of Kabayel in the pecking order ? Baffling.

 

That's the alphabet bodies BS for ya.

 

Sure, up to a point...

It's just interesting how the double standards work around here - some fighters get mega credits for beating old fighters, fighters with super thin resumes, overhyped fighters, unbeaten fighters, etc... Some fighters absolutely every excuse gets made to avoid giving them credit.

With many around here, Kabayel beating Zhang and a couple of hypejobs gets as much (or more) credit than Parker beating a younger, presumably less declined Zhang, former champion and contender Wilder and extremely highly hyped Bakole...
When it comes to Parker deserving the shot far more than Kabayel, you'll see people (IMHO) rightly pointing out that Bakole was overhyped for beating an unproven prospect and yet Kabayel didn't beat someone who beat unproven prospects, he himself is getting the credit for beating them... And Wilder isn't worth much because he's "shot" (it might be a spelling mistake?) and Fury ruined him, yet if Wilder had won he'd have been straight back in the same posters top fives again... And Zhang, well he might have been a year younger (a lot at 40+) but Parker didn't stop him so who cares?


You're right that Kabayel is interesting - and it will (hopefully) be interesting to see him continue to develop... I just don't think he belongs in the same sentence as Parker in terms of who deserves the shots.

 

The problem is, Kabayel best Chisora 7-8 years ago... Then did **** all for 6 years, before stepping back up against a pair of prospects and then Zhang.

It's not that the Zhang win isn't decent (although he's overrated as a 41 year old who is, literally, 3-3-1 against top 200 ranked fighters), it's that Kabayel has done nothing else significant.

Chisora beating old Joyce, old Pulev and solid gatekeeper Wallin (who even if the best night of his career was a bit flukey still should have a win over Fury - and regardless he's a decent enough gatekeeper)...

Honestly, if Kabayel deserves it then Chisora realistically does too - I'll say again though, I'm not convinced either do (that's not to say it's a travesty if they get it, but it's not unfair if they're sidelined either - where it is if Parker does).

 

On and off...

This is where I struggle with Kabayel.

He fought Chisora in November 2017... He then spent the next SIX YEARS fighting total no-hopers (Rovcanin, Rudenko, Lazaridis, Kevin ****ing Johnson, Sour, Smakici) before then fighting ludicrously overhyped Makhmudov in December 2023.

Zhangs a decent win, but Kabayel isn't fighting anyone and everyone...