Despite Dick Tiger having a better middleweight resume than Hopkins, why is Hopkins rated higher?

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  1. TheEliteMaster100

    TheEliteMaster100 Member Full Member

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    Hopkins 2 best wins at Middleweight were against junior Middleweights where as Tiger fought genuine elite middleweights in a golden age of middleweights.

    1955-1965 middleweight crop was ridiculously stacked.

    Tiger's middleweight resume;


    Henry Hank
    Rubin Carter
    Florentino Fernandez (power puncher)
    Spider Webb
    Holly Mims
    Jose Monon Gonzalez (power puncher)
    Terry Downes
    Joey giardello x2
    Gene Fullmer x2
    Don Fullmer
    Yolande Pompey

    Whereas Hopkins reigned Middleweight champ in one of the worst periods, whereby all of the great middleweights of 87-95 moved up to 168/175 divisions.

    Hopkins middleweight resume;

    John David Jackson
    Simon Brown (post prime)
    Glen Johnson
    Keith Holmes
    Joppy
    Trinidad
    De la Hoya
     
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  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 I’m become seeker of milk Full Member

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    I’m not going to disagree. Go Tiger.
     
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  3. michael mullen

    michael mullen Active Member Full Member

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    Partisan, fan boy Hopkins types can overrate him if they wish. I say that Tiger would savage Hopkins up close and personal for a one sided decision victory over 15.
     
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  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dick Tiger rates higher and beats Hopkins as well
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Hopkins too canny and shifty for Richard. 5 or so spots ahead too.
     
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  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I dare any man in this room-this virtual room-to do a Google image search for Hopkins' smile. Then, I implore you to look deeply into his eyes and his gaze and his smile and his dentical mouth and lips. Then, tell me that you do not see the universe. Then tell me you rate Tiger more highly. You come back and you all tell me that. Then we'll talk.
     
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  7. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^^^^ Pretty much this ^^^^ and I don’t find it particularly close as much as I like Tiger
     
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  8. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tiger may have better names on his resume but head to head Hopkins was too smart for him. Tiger could be made to look like he had cement shoes against a smart boxer.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    15 rounds is a long time for Hopkins to be in the ring with Tiger, if Hopkins can control distance he could take a UD, if in the later rounds this fight goes close quarters Hopkins will be walking a rough road.
     
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  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    This is what would happen to Richard.
     
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  11. TheEliteMaster100

    TheEliteMaster100 Member Full Member

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    Tiger has never been kayoed at 160 and was only dropped once at age 36 + weight drained vs Griffith.

    We saw what Mercado did to Hopkins
     
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  12. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not a big Hopkins fan, but he would have beaten Dick Tiger. I've seen both of these guys fight stinker fights, but Hopkins should outbox him on the outside.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    If you're summing up Hopkins H2H abilities on Mercado 1 you've got a fair sized axe to grind.
     
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  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My man
     
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  15. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would personally be 50/50 on this match-up, but when Hopkins first fought Mercado, that was miles above sea level in Ecuador. I believe Hopkins sorted it out in the rematch.
     
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