Despite retirement talk, Strikeforce's Fedor could be GP alternate

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  1. scurlaruntings

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    Despite retirement talk, Strikeforce's Fedor Emelianenko could be top grand-prix alternate
    by Dann Stupp on Feb 13, 2011 at 5:00 am ET
    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – Although the MMA legend hinted at retirement following a second-round TKO loss to Antonio Silva, Fedor Emelianenko's fighting career may not be over.

    Both Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker and Emelianenko's agent, M-1 Global president Vadim Finkelchtein, want the 34-year-old to continue.

    And Coker could dangle an intriguing opportunity should Emelianenko wish to continue fighting: first dibs on any alternate spots that open in the Strikeforce heavyweight grand prix.

    Emelianenko (31-3 MMA, 1-2 SF) and Silva (16-2 MMA, 3-1 SF) headlined Saturday's Showtime-televised "Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Silva" event at the IZOD Center in East Rutherford, N.J. After a close first round, Silva unloaded a brutal ground-and-pound assault in the second. With the Russian's right eye swollen shut, the cageside physician halted the bout after before the start of the third round, which resulted in Emelianenko's second consecutive defeat since a legendary decade-long win streak.

    The bout was part of the opening round of Strikeforce's eight-man, season-long heavyweight tournament. And though three tourney-reserve bouts populated Saturday's main card, any available alternate spots instead could go to Emelianenko.

    "There's absolutely a possibility he could be a replacement," Coker told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) after the show. "That's the beauty of the tournament. You don't know what could happen in the next leg of the tournament. As this tournament unwinds over the year, there could be an injury, and you could see Fedor back in the tournament."

    Decisions about injury replacements ultimately will be made by a Strikeforce committee, as Coker previously announced. And though Shane Del Rosario, Chad Griggs and Valentijn Overeem all won reserve bouts at Saturday's show, Emelianenko could cut to the front of the line.

    Emelianenko undoubtedly would be the biggest draw of the four. But Coker said there would be other reasons for the selection. Namely, that Silva vs. Emelianenko was cut short by an injury.

    "It was a tough fight out there," Coker said. "Like Alistair (Overeem) said, Fedor always comes back in the third round. But he didn't get a chance today. (With) the stoppage today, I don't think Fedor could see. He may have even had an orbital fracture, but safety comes first. He'll have another day."

    Regardless, Coker said he and Emelianenko, who recently signed a new multi-fight deal with Strikeforce, have plenty of bouts ahead. Neither he nor Finkelchtein appeared to take Emelianenko's retirement talk seriously.

    "You know how that goes," Coker said. "Guys get very emotional after fights. We'll see."

    Finkelchtein, who said the doctor's stoppage was "the right decision," thinks Emelianenko may have just been emotional when he mentioned the possibility of retiring.

    "I think Fedor was just upset," he said. "That decision, of course, belongs to Fedor. But I think I know him well, and I think he's full so full of strength. I think he will continue."

    Emelianenko, arguably the greatest heavyweight in MMA history and one of the sport's most accomplished fighters, suffered a June loss to Fabricio Werdum, which snapped a staggering 27-fight win streak. The former PRIDE champion now has suffered consecutive defeats.


    This is interesting as Fedor has signed a multi fight deal. Will he have to honour his contract assuming there's no get out clause? Will he want to be an alternate despite saying he wants to retire?
     
  2. Stoo

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    This stinks of M1 tryna keep the golden goose alive to me
     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Fedor is a part owner in M-1. He also seems like a man of integrity. Unless he thinks he cant do this any more i doubt we'll see him back.
    Plus judging by the swelling Fedor had in his eye id say he had a broken Orbital bone. Which means he'll be out for the rest of the tournament.
     
  4. Stoo

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    I do hope he's comfortable financially. It's obvious he's not a big spender but I mean I hope M1 are taking care of him. And there arent any financial or contractual pressure to keep fighting if his heart is set on retiring. I guess I just dont want to see him become a glorified Steve Jennum or fight the losers in this tourney because the best guys will be occupied until the final. But then again maybe a Werdum rematch or Barnett would not be bad match ups
     
  5. achillesthegreat

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    Sharpness and power seems to be going. Very sad to see.

    It may also be that Fedors well rounded game is no longer special. Everyone is big, well trained and well versed in striking and grappling now.
     
  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Fedor is VERY comfortable financially. He made millions in his final bouts in PRIDE as well as Affliction. Without knowing the specifics of his contract its difficult to speculate. As of course Coker and M-1 will want him to fight. But ultimately the decision is Fedor's. I doubt Fedor would be silly enough to sign a contract that didnt have a get out clause.
     
  7. Stoo

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    And how much money would he make if he set up his own school franchise of sorts. Could be the European equivalent of what Randy has done in Vegas.
     
  8. Flea Man

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    I wouldn't really like to see it.

    However, if The Reem beats Werdum a rematch would be a good idea IMO. He'd be a less difficult proposition than Silva IMO and it would be meaningful for both, eliminated in the first round, rather than watching everyone else fight.

    Maybe they'll give Fedor a Chad Groggs to feast on and see how it pans out :lol: One things for sure, Fedor is past his best but not shot. His durability and resilience are still second to none and he still displayed skills against a man who was giving him a torrid time.

    I just don't want him to eventually fall into the 'Chuck path'.
     
  9. Stoo

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    Fedor looked light on his feet until Big Foot pressed him up in against the cage for extended periods. Seemed to sap a bit of his strength as you'd imagine a 280+ man leaning on you would.
    He's on the decline but shot is a bit strong imo, Just the combination of extreme size and skill did for him. He's still got the heart thats for sure.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

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    Even though Fedor lost it was essentially because of a serious injury. Throughout his entire career Fedor has always marked up bad. So in some respects Fedor does gain a small victory from this.
    He was never seriously hurt once despite taking some serious GnP and still had the wherewithal to manoeuvre himself out of a d'arce choke and still go for a toe hold.
    Fedor is far far from being shot. What he did face in Silva was a physical specimen that would have given him trouble at ANY stage of his career.
     
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    I was impressed by the way he avoided the g'n'p, more shots missed than hit. And surviving that arm triangle to roll into the kneebar later on was vintage and had me hoping. The stoppage was justified, but it is Fedor, you never know what could have happend :D
     
  12. Flea Man

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    It's true what Scurla is saying.

    Choi landed like, one hammer fist on Fedor and made a mark under his eye. Silva had the skill to keep Fedor there and dish out further punishment.

    He is still well-rounded enough, we have seen his striking dissuade world class strikers, his sub game bamboozle all kinds of styles, and we know how good of a grappler he is. He has used these attributes numerous times and can still use them, unofrtunately he got mounted by Big Foot Silva.

    The Reem would beat him at this stage IMO. Most likely, though he's more open to subs and Fedor would have more of a chance to spring something. I don't see Overeem smashing him to bits, I think he might hurt him but Fedor is canny enough and his feints do not make him an easy opponent to time, when he rushes opponents they back up regardless of opposition.

    But it's the last three fights he's shown a noticeable decline; in a cage. If Reem were to push him up against there it would sap his energy even moreso and he'd beore prone to defeat. Alistair is so strong in the clinch.

    But Werdum doesn't really threaten this, Kharitonov is very good but I'd favour Fedor, there are still fights there for him to have. He is past prime but hardly Ali fighting Holmes :lol:

    I said beforehand that Barnett could well win it, I think he will sub Rogers and Kharitonov (who has solid sambo) but this tournament is so conpetitive literally anything could happen!

    It's amazing, shame Fedor got beat up, but he still proved what a warrior he was. Lesnar really would've had no chance, stand-up deficiency is one thing, but Silva showed what kind of a ground game you need to keep Fedor surpressed, and showed what hellacious g'n'p Fedor can absorb.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    I also didn't like Fedors White gloves :deal
     
  14. RUSKULL

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    I'd rather see Fedor retire. I know that's not a popular opinion around here but I'd hate to see lesser fighters beat him like they're doing with the once great Crocop...............a good fighter should know when they're starting to slip. Wanderlei Silva, Evander Holyfield, James Toney, etc. should all retire.
     
  15. scurlaruntings

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    Nah you'll find most want to see Fedor retire. His been doing this for a long time now. He went out on his shield. The man deserves it.