Despite Whyte's personality, credit is due for his resume

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  1. Tyson379

    Tyson379 Active Member banned Full Member

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    His resume is actually pretty insane, especially for a guy who hasn't got a title shot. You know people have criticized him for getting dropped yet nobody recognizes that he faces top opposition and has secured wins against everyone besides Povetkin. But beyond that, he put Povetkin down twice and had him on shaky legs ready for a stoppage and made a bad mistake! That really doesn't discount him from the division. He will most likely beat Povetkin the second time around.

    But just look at his resume for a guy who hasn't been stopped since Joshua:

    Chisora 2x
    Joseph Parker
    Oscar Rivas
    Lucas Browne
    Helenius
    Wach

    Nobody has a better resume in the past 4 years. I wouldn't sleep on Whyte, he could easily become HW champion in no time.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Insane" is a bit much, but he has very aggressively pursued good fights, especially since he is a non-champion. This certainly ****s all over Wilder's resume.

    The problem is that 2-3 of the wins were dodgy. The results, with the Povetkin fight added, don't really show that he is that far above the pack. I think before the Povetkin fight, you could have made the argument that he was the #3 heavy in the world, and is still somewhere in the top 6.

    The short answer is yes, he deserves credit.
     
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  3. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A resume full of gatekeepers lol, with the benefit of a ref that his dad Eddie paid off to help him scrape past Parker.

    It's a pretty average resume to tell you the truth.
     
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    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think you have to credit him, he is doing and has done what fighters should do, fight decent opposition, also if he wants to be headline PPV events without a title in sight, the least he can do is fight decent opposition.

    I do think he deserved a WBC title shot, so many others have done much less and got shots.. that said he didn't take the opportunity to fight AJ again for world titles, he turned that down because of the money and he refused a final eliminator.

    So although I think he deserved his shot at the WBC title, there is a little bit of my mind that thinks.. well he didn't take the really big opportunities when presented to him, so he has nobody to blame but himself.



    Also, we have to remember while Whyte has been waiting for his WBC title shot, he has had multiple PPV fights, so fighting AJ or Wilder back then would have probably been less financially beneficial to him long term.

    If he got his shot straight away, he would have got a mandatory split, probably got beat and would not have had a run of PPV fights, we have to remember the rematch with Povetkin is PPV.

    Whyte hasn't won a European or World title and is a PPV fighter, so I don't feel that sorry for him, he has made multi millions without winning a big title.

    Whyte made his choices and it looks to have backfired right now in terms on getting a title shot, from what I'm reading the WBC won't make him mandatory even if he wins the rematch.


    So he will have another run of PPV fights, Hearn will sell "The Comeback" and they will both make shed loads of money at British boxing fans expense, all with no European title, no World title, so I just don't feel that bad for him.
     
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  6. Veys9

    Veys9 Let's go Champ! Full Member

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    I fully respect Whyte and he's a big plus for the sports, I enjoy his fights and press conferences and his resume is really decent, but it's not magic either. Browne, Helenius and Wach are average boxers, but Whyte and Hearn hype all his opponents up.

    - Credit for beating Chisora twice, even if the first one could've been decided either way. Second fight was tough for both aswell.
    - Rivas was a good win and comeback after a knockdown, although Rivas is still young and he missed many punches in that fight.
    - The Parker fight was a real war, even if Parker was reluctant to go aggressive, they both put up a great show, I like that fight and yeah, despite the clear point victory, Parker in the end wasn't far of a KO win, Whyte was really out of gas in the last rounds. If Parker did a bit better he might have won regardless of Whyte's dominance on the cards, but really good fight after all against a former World Champion.
    - Against Povetkin, I think they picked him because he's a good name to have on the records and a shot fighter. Whyte played it save all way long, but got clipped. Can happen, but it wasn't luck. Povetkin knows the tricks of this trade and he could set up an ice cold finisher. Can go either way in the rematch. Experience beat youth, but Whyte showed a different side of himself, less aggressive, more patient.

    A very versatile fighter who will put up great performances in future aswell. I wanted him to fight Ortiz and Miller, but I think both of these fights will never be materialised anymore.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Povetkin

    Price in the UK
    AJ in England
    Hughie Fury in England
    Michael ''The Bounty'' Hunter in Saudi
    Whyte in England
    Whyte in England

    Heading back on over to England to rematch Whyte even though by rights he deserves home advantage this time and Whyte doesn't really deserve a rematch because he got sparked out cold.

    And Povetkin was already 39 y/o when he fought AJ for goodness sake and was not only giving away home advantage in all those fights, bar the neutral turf vs Hunter, he was also giving away huge physical advantages to all but Hunter and huge advantages in age to all of them bar Price

    Povetkin:

    Age 38-41
    Height 6'2''
    Weight 222-229
    Reach 75''

    AJ:

    28
    6'6''
    245¼
    82''

    Whyte:

    32
    6'4''
    252¼
    78'' reach << that's complete nonsense Whyte has ridiculously long arms

    Price:

    34
    68''
    256¼
    82''

    Hughie:

    24
    6'6''
    224
    80''

    Put some respeck on Sasha Povetkin's name
     
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  8. RB1702

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    His resume is pretty good considering he’s never even had a title shot.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    Next to Wilder's, it looks like Evander ****in Holyfield's. But next to Usyk's, it looks like Deontay ****in Wilder's. :deal:
     
  10. BCS8

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    Whyte has a solid resume. He's one of the best of the 'next tier' fighters.
     
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    Shouldn't have bad mouthed Deontay. Shouldn't have disrespected the bomb squad, and made negative remarks to the wbc president. I can tell you one thing, even if he does avenge his defeat, he won't be getting that precious title shot once the bronze bomber deals with Fury. Mr Haymon will make sure that shiny green belt stays in America. Lol
     
  12. Badbot

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    **** off with this Browne nonsense. Dude was never anythng of note. Pure trash TBH.
    Barely in the top 50.

    FFS, Browne beat old, inactive, career high weight Chagaev because Chagaev got tired. Browne has power and it saved him that night. But thats all he ever had.
    Dude is trash.
    And I am once again triggered by reading hia name.


    *Wach is past it and an okish win at best.
    Helenius has been past his prime for a long, long time now. It was seen as a joke that Whyte went 12 round with him.



    **** ANYONE WHO THINKS LUCAS BROWNE IS WORTH A DAMN!
     
  13. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically burn you Full Member

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    Chagaev didn't lose because he got tired, he lost because he ate a huge uppercut and couldn't recover. And while in hindsight you can say Browne wasn't all that, the Whyte fight was seen as a big one at the time, so credit to Whyte for wanting a fight against a then-undefeated and huge knockout puncher. No one can foresee the future, and you have to deliver on the night. Browne might have been a mess but if Whyte had let the nerves get to him he could very well have found his own face planted on the canvas.
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically burn you Full Member

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    His resume might be very solid, but don't equate that to him becoming HW champ. He's just lacking at that upper tier.
     
  15. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a good resume considering his limitations, but It's grossly overstated. Wach has been a gatekeeper in the last couple of years(he actually lost to Szpilka who's widely referred as a bum around here), so was Helenius(had just been KOd by Duhaupas a year before) despite him exposing Kownacki who was always a KO waiting to happen, Browne was a glorified toughman, was juiced to the gills and happened to catch a shot Chagaev at the right time only to show his true level(meaning when he actually honoured the drug testing regulations) against Whyte and Dave Allen, I thought he lost the first Chisora fight, but he still deserves credit for hanging tough in the first fight and finding his money punch in the rematch.

    And he ain't getting an ounce of credit from me for the "win" over Rivas.