Destroying our own sport

The problem with your analogy is that the NSAC is the cops, not floyd. If some random guy off the street pulls you over and tries to make you take a sobriety test, do you take it or do you tell him to go **** himself ? With your logic, you would take the test if you have nothing to hide, ha ha. Flawed logic..................

 

Got me there. I am just smack talking. Take nothing I say personally. I humbly apologize.

There was and is no proof. There is only circumstantial evidence based on one man's actions after testing became imminent to getting the fight done. Manny isn't proven guilty, but he sure did EVERYTHING a guilty person would do.

Remember, commissions only have jurisdiction in their state. So basically a commission is a "client" to the sport protecting the fighter's, promoter's, and state's interest. A commission's testing is a balance of being "strong" enough to not be a joke and lax enough not to run away fighters.

Also, if you look on the NSAC's website it clearly states that paying for testing is on the NSAC's or promoter's shoulders. My assumption is that the bigger the event (state revenue) the more likely the NSAC covers the bill. If this testing is a few thousand dollars it basically puts small time fights off the table.

Think about it, if tomorrow Nevada implemented this standard all by themselves... There would be a whole lot of commissions jumping for joy due to the FLOOD of new business.

 

Boxing shot itself in the foot with Mayweather v Pacquiao not happening, ah well it'll happen at the end of the year in November anyway.

 

Emmm, plenty of MMA fighters have been caught doping. More than boxing.

 

If you declined random testing in any other sport you would not be regarded as clean, you would be banned. Why is pro boxing different?

 

Pac didn't decline testing, he just refused to let floyd dictate the terms and conditions of his testing. NSAC has the authority over testing protocol, not floyd. Pac went over and above what he had to do as far as testing was concerned.

 

I get so frenzied smashing up the *******s sometimes I can't recognize a person who wants to have a real exchange of ideas. :nut

Again, my apologies! :good

 

pac didnt accept 14 days he must be a cheat.

floyd didnt accept 24 days he must be ducking.

wtf 14 days 24 days cant see what the ****ing big deal is. just egos wanting to get the last word its like bartering in a pawn shop or something.


the thing is with all the allegations and controversy, if pac is juicing (big if) do you guys think pac and his team are thinking about the best cycle to beat the drug test? no thats ****ing stupid. someone with so much legacy will not risk all that. hes already cemented his legacy and if he was juicing he can easily test negative for the requested drug test.

like i said before, accepting the test will not prove if he was a cheat or not. the drug test request is ******ed to begin with. if you say that the drug test is there to make sure the fight is fair, then you must assume that every boxing fight that has happened with out this kind of testing has been unfair.

heres the two possible reason why pac wants a cut off date. one is that he relieve believes that taking out blood will weaken him and affect his training (weather it will or not in reality is insignificant if he really thinks it will). the other is that hes planning to use the last 24 days to juice and train (probably less since he has to make sure the drug is out of his system by a certain time). if you think its the latter, do you really think that theyre taht desperate to use PEDs despite all the controversy and allegations going on right now?

 

Wrong. He declined testing. There is a specific protocol for testing using the methods that FMJ put forward. Go read it on the USADA's website.

Once you sign them on? They own that ass. You pop you are toast. Pop with the NSAC? You just fight out of country. Pop with them? Game over in the WORLD.

The testing would have been NO JOKE!

 

Not at all dissing you, but who are you in relation to doping? An experienced doper? A respected anti-doping scientist? Unless you are one of the two you are just talking out of your butt.

Are the opinions of an experienced doper and anti-doping scientist available? Yes. What do they say? Manny is full of crap.

 

i dont think you read what i posted. where in my post was i trying to be an expert in doping?

 

You attempt to "rationally" explain why Pac was justified in his denial of testing and why Mayweather was unjustified in his not accepting of Manny's terms. All the while trying the imply this "its everybody's fault" aura over the whole situation. You are wrong and this flies in the face of every action of Team Pacquio up to this point.

Every expert has come out saying exactly why cut off dates are UNACCEPTABLE in drug testing protocols and why to do EFFECTIVE drug testing you MUST draw blood.

There is no middle ground on this argument. Mayweather gave up complete correctness and STILL Pac won't fight. Manny is a cheat.

 

Like I said, Pac wasn't going to let lil floyd dictate the terms of the testing. NSAC has testing in place. Pac already made concessions regarding the tests. He agreed to random urine testing, a press conference blood test, a 24 day blood test, and a post fight blood test.

Now you tell me what kind of steroid can you take for 3 weeks that would be out of his system immediately for a post fight blood test. Come on man, a 3 week steroid cycle while the spotlight is on you by the whole boxing community. WTF kind of steroids will do any good in 3 weeks and not be detected by the random urine test and post fight blood test ???

 

well try to answer the questions ive asked.

"the thing is with all the allegations and controversy, if pac is juicing (big if) do you guys think pac and his team are thinking about the best cycle to beat the drug test? "

SInce pac can easily just not take peds and test negative on the test, whats the point of the test? to make it fair? IF so ar eyou assuming that all fights have been unfair since they didnt have such testing?

and lastly Do you think that team pacquiao wnats a cut off date cuz theyre taht desperate to use steroids the last 20 days of the fight even with all the controversy and allegations going on?