Developing stamina takes years, decades. Itauma's problems aren't simple

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm not trying to defend Davison. In fact, I find myself routing against his fighters more often than not. I'm countering this narrative, the excuse to discredit Hrgovic, that he didn't train Moses for a long fight. It's BS and I'm not buying it at all

    I'm not trying to dump on Moses at all he's a super talent and I like him a lot. I'm defending Hrgovic who is being given zero credit by so many
     
  2. GoodBot

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    Itauma doesn't lack stamina, he fights in a style that is unsustainable over 12 rounds: he is always tense and throws everything with 100% speed and power, and he cant do it for half an hour, no one can.
     
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  3. Serge

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    There's only one other top HW in the world right now who I believe might have been able to stand up to the 8-9 rounds of power shots Hrgovic did vs Moses and that's Fabio.

    Usyk is iron-chinned but he's not getting caught clean with a fraction of the ones Hrgovic did and I mean even this almost 40 y/o well past his best version

    Hrgovic had to walk through fire to secure that win as a massive underdog on a deck heavily stacked against him in Moses' backyard in front of a very partisan home crowd in what was the worst possible style match up for him. I think it might have taken a lot out of him too, just like I was concerned the Big Bang fight did. But he's receiving zero credit from so many who gave him zero chance and after having been extremely disrespected going in with Jake ''Money'' Paul vs AJ odds and after being extremely gracious in victory

    He's only lost x 1 and that was to the current #2 HW in the world in a fight he was dominating prior to gassing and one which he should've won had everything been on the level. You can't billy goat your opponent's visage 22-26 times and not have points deducted and then your opponent lose on cuts. The fight should've gone to the judge's cards

    And Moses is absolutely not a hype job. He's a serious talent and I still believe he will go onto achieve great things
     
  4. The Real Lance

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    Decades is kind of a stretch IMO. i know plenty pf people who went from never running to doing 10-15 miles regularly. Even when not in the best shape. And obviously just adding more cardio for a couple of camps is ridiculous. Serious road work has to be a part of EVERY camp going forward.
     
  5. Kiwi Casual

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    I think the issue with Ben Davidson is his tactics and how awful he is in the corner. Wardley took an absolutely unnecessary beating from Dubios and a super one-dimensional gameplan that may have permanently damaged his career.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah but that's a seperate issue from what I'm talking about. Countless fans and members of the boxing fraternity are pushing this narrative that he didn't train Moses for a long fight and that's the reason why Moses lost. He is being made a scapegoat just like McCracken was after Usyk vs AJ but I'm not trying to defend him I'm challenging that narrative because I think it's BS and it's just an excuse to discredit Hrgovic's win and mitigate Moses' loss.

    If the roles were reversed the narrative would be what an incredible display of heart, intestinal fortitude, and unreal toughness from Moses to gut out the win and you can substitute Moses with other popular British HWs and it would still apply