Devil's Advocate

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by BillB, May 25, 2014.


  1. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's switch hats for a minute.

    Say something bad about your favorite fighters.

    Say something good about your least favorite fighters.


    Here's mine-

    Favorites
    Liston- A thug mentality until the end.
    Marciano - Fought dirty.
    Louis - Dumb- barely able to speak a coherent sentence.

    Least favorites-
    Ali- Brilliant speed and ring smarts.
    Patterson- A true gentleman. A good man.
     
  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    favorites:

    McCall - lakt e left huk end kombineishens
    Tua - lakt e rait hend
    Holyfield - woz e leser teknishen dan hiz overol faiting valyu, wich mins det hi
    woz mor relaid on panch rezistanc, panch end strengs
    Toney - woz 2 dependent on hiz oponents kaming 4ward, lakt ril panching
    pawer, hiz chin gets over8ed e bit, inkluding bay mayself in d past, relaid
    2 mach on hiz rait hend wich feild him mach mor often dan not.
    Witherspoon - Im stil weitn 4d konvikshen det hi kud fait on d retrit, feild 2win
    decaisivli vs azer past end fyucher world champions.



    list favorites:
    Ali - d bulked post exile inkarneishen hed e gud chin
    Tyson - hed e strong chin, woz quik
    Lewis - woz strong, hard pancher
    Bowe - woz strong, hard pancher
    Wladimir K - iz strong
     
  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Some of my favorites, either in terms of rooting for them, or just loving to watch them box:


    Mike Tyson: front-runner, prone to frustration and to look for one bomb

    Julian Jackson- average chin

    Manny Pacquiao- not the best ring-cutter, can get pretty sloppy and reckless at times

    Floyd Mayweather- can be selective to a fault with punch selection (not enough combos), tendency to cherry-pick opponents, always forearms/elbows opponents and uses open gloves, but whines whenever the dirty tactics come back to him.

    James Toney- inconsistent, poor training and eating habits, sometimes fought like he didn't care.

    Matthew Saad Muhammad- not the best defensive fighter (although that is part of what made him such a like able fighter)


    Some of my least favorites:

    Lennox Lewis: just a great fighter.

    Joe Calzaghe: excellent workrate, very good fighter

    Vitali Klitschko: excellent training habits and ability to perform at advanced age. Good at measuring the distance and using footwork.

    Adrien Broner:

    Wladimir Klitschko: excellent offensive tools, effective at gauging distance.
     
  4. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Favorites
    Tyson - lacked discipline and the mentality without the right people around him
    Hagler - even though I think he barely won, had a foolish game plan for first 4 rds vs Leonard
    Hearns - bad survival instincts (no clinching in first Leonard fight)
    Sugar Ray Rob - not really anything bad to say about him in the ring. He was that good
    Willie Pep - punching power is probably his only drawback
    Jack Dempsey - lost to competition he shouldn't have
    James Toney - didn't take care of his body
    Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins - should have found a way to make the rematch happen in their primes
    Holmes - discredits a lot of other great fighters (Foreman, Joe Louis, he didn't discredit Marciano, the truth is Marciano actually couldn't carry Holmes jockstrap)


    least
    both Klitschkos - good jabs and Vitali is tough
    Ray Leonard - fast technical and exciting
    Mayweather - great defensively and accurate offensively
    Calzaghe - fast
    Oscar - good all around
    Marciano - real real tough
     
  5. WhyYouLittle

    WhyYouLittle Stand Still Full Member

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    Favorites

    Charley Burley: Looking just at his record he's overrated by some people trapped by the mystique of the Row (that was painful). Couldn't deal with swarmers.

    SRR: Navigated his career quite carefully. Could have stomped most of his WW competition by sheer size. Was an absolute ******* outside the ring specially regarding money.

    Ezzard Charles: Boring outside the ring. More hittable than some people would like to admit IMO.

    Tony Canzoneri: Erratic.

    Joe Louis: Unproven against southpaws. Conn I will forever raise questions about his invincibility. Lena Horne.

    Éder Jofre: Not the best BW competition ever.

    Carlos Monzon: Same thing. Oh, and there was that thing with his wife too. Not cool.

    Benny Leonard anyone? I honestly can't think of anything without stretching it a little.


    Least favorites:

    Wladmir Clinchko: Tremendously difficult to deal with. One of the best HW jabs of AT, one of the best tools in the division. ATG (God that hurts.)

    Naseem Hamed, Michael Nunn: Talented beyond question.

    SRL: Smart, skilled, tough, powerful, quick as fack.
     
  6. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All time favorite was Hagler- really hard to think of anything negative to say, about this dude, he was a real genuine guy, if anything he was unprepared against Leonard and pissed away the 1st half of the fight costing him the biggest fight of his career..

    Favorite Holyfield, got mixed up with steriods, and peds that was bull****, and was stupid with his money, thats why he ended up with serious financial problems..

    Favorite Tommy Morrison, poor lifestyle choices, drinking, drugs, reckless promiscuity which led to him getting HIV, and dying at a young age..

    Least favorite Tyson, seems to be wising up after so many years of stupidity...

    Least favorite James Toney, showed a lot of heart in the 2nd Peter fight where he took a serious beating..

    Least favorite, Ricardo Mayorga, seriously i can't think of anything good to say about this turd, except he fought a good fight against Vernon Forrest..
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This would only be valid, if other people could pick the fighters for you!
     
  8. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    favourite:
    aaron pryor - was so open many topclass counterpunchers would beat him

    least favourite:

    bernard hopkins - schools anyone who isnt athletically superior, only a few in history.
     
  9. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    Favourite...Tyrell Biggs....weak puncher, lacked stamina,had an addictive personality which manifested in a drug problem followed by a drink problem...failed to make the most of bags of talent.
    (All the courage in the world though and a gent)

    Mike Tyson...Tw#t but if i was in a ruck i wouldnt mind him on side....total nutter...and quick !
     
  10. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey...
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
  12. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    frankenfrank makes you use areas of the brain you didnt think you had, worthy poster :happy
     
  13. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    Yeh i do enjoy a frankenfrank post...... stimulating