Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia’s real weight in the night

Hey,
Yes - I saw it. I was just wondering if every commision does it since Garcia fight was in New York.

 

Good post. I think it’s understood that Haney’s natural weight (that being a still properly trained down weight for fighting) is that much higher - but the recapture of weight in such a short period of time might still raise eyebrows - via an IV perhaps?

They also claim to do periodic and acceptably accurate hydration checks on fighters leading in - to ensure they’re not running in grossly underweight - so it seems Haney somehow passed those checks.

I wonder how long the fighters allow themselves to dehydrate/drop weight for the official weigh in - as in, how quickly can they drop, say, 25 lbs of natural weight from go to whoa?

Maybe the commissions are too flexible on lower hydration levels at the official weigh in, knowing the fighters do have that bit of extra time to regain themselves - which would defeat the intents and purposes of course.

I guess moving up to your natural weight division could ironically see you fighting among other so called weight bullies - the old pecking order.

We had a discussion in Classic some time back re Usyk’s “event” weights when fighting as a CW with the view to determining his actual, natural fighting weight when competing in that division.

Some “event” weights were recorded here and there - they weren’t as high as some were claiming or estimating - can’t recall but maybe the range was around 208 lbs to 215 lbs at best? I’d have to review the thread I question to be sure though.

 

Until the rules change universally, I don't think there is such a thing as a 'weight bully' is there?

That term is banded about so much - and it's often to discredit a fighter - maybe just because you don't personally like him?

 

For sure, once you have an “event”’weight to match with the appearance, you have a pretty good reference point for estimating weight going forward.

I also agree that Haney was at least 165 lbs in the ring against Garcia. Ryan already had the jump of 3 lbs and 155 - 160 lbs max. for him seems fair - even at max., he would’ve still been conceding at least 5 lbs to Devin.

 

I’m of that opinion somewhat. Haney can and does do it because it is within the rules - he doesn’t receive special dispensation to do so just for himself.

There are a number of others ways to work in and around the rules that fighters often use to their advantage. It really does come to an argument against the rules, not the fighter.

 

That’s it. You’ve nailed it.

They use a drainage stent to drain fluid from his head - a good 25 lbs worth. A simple process.

At the weigh in, his head looks so consequentially tiny that it appears that it could easily roll off along his shoulders and onto the floor.

After the official weigh in he simply rehydrates that melon of his, tubes plugged in every which way to return his head to its original massive dimensions and weight.

The only long term side effect is drain bamage - apparently Devin is okay with the trade off and may well be already experiencing the onset of same.

 

I can't say I always like it, but yeh if they stay within the rules then that's that. I don't know the science but I'm aware there are ways of losing weight 'safely' these days - and ways of rehydrating 'safely'

Haney doesn't seem a popular man. I read so many words from boxing fans that that tell me that he isn't liked.

I'll say that he might not be the most exciting
fighter on the scene but he's skilled and i'm happy to watch that skill mostly.

 

In the post fight interview I wondered if Haney's cheeks were swollen from punches. Maybe his head gets big in different places at different times just to balance things out

 

Tbh Haney looked drained at weigh ins

 

People are mistaken thinking it's 25lb rehydration in 24 hours. It's more like 40 hours because Haney is able to get official weigh ins pushed as early as possible. 40 hours is almost two days which is insane. If you make official weigh in Friday night at 9PM or so, Haney has to immediately move to 147 or more likely 154.