Devin Haney, Trying To Switch October Date With Prograis?

Didn’t you just do what you accused me of in your previous post lol.

 

If he's going to insist on taking five rounds off every fight, maybe they should just stop gifting him title shots. No one has ever worked so little to be given as many opportunities as he's had.

 

Biatch look up the word date in the dictionary
Or get youre dad to explain it to you

 

You want eddie to send you that by email

 

You don't who that man fighting, you just bumping yo gums.

 

Why should they stop giving him title shots when they can control the outcome? Trade on his reputation, add his name to a resume, rinse and repeat. The fanboys there won't call it out and too few true boxing fans left to keep them honest. He should retire or box somewhere with fair judging.

 

He should retire before he winds up like 18-6.

He was gifted an unearned title shot at the beginning of his career after hiding out in the amateurs, LOST, and then was given ANOTHER title shot. Unheard of.

He clearly lost to a novice Teo, despite having like 400 amateur fights.

He refused to fight Haney until he became undisputed, and now he is refusing to fight Shakur. He has no interest in doing anything other than sitting around and waiting for someone else to collect the belts for him.

He should definitely quit as he is all out of shortcuts.

 

I don't speak jiberish... Ima call Floyd Sr to translate that ****.

 

Even we accept your assertion, Lomachenko still won 7 rounds against Haney in the opinion of most objective observers (myself included).

He also defeated multiple championship caliber fighters to collect those belts at 135lbs; it's not as if he inherited them.

Moreover Loma deserved the nod against Haney---a bigger, longer opponent about a decade his junior. Not too shabby.

For someone who's supposedly so undeserving, he has certainly acquitted himself very well.

 

You thought he won... so what? Who cares? He'd already tried the approach of taking half a fight off and then taking advantage of a tiring opponent, only to be outfought down the stretch by a younger, hungrier fighter. He learned nothing from the Teo fight and chose to listen to delusional fans like you who overrate everything he does.

I'm okay with not rewarding lazy, part time fighters who don't want to do anything but sit around waiting for the perfect opportunity and then half ass it when they get a shot.

7-5 isn't a robbery. It was debateable and he should have gotten a rematch in a perfect world. But he was given a high profile fight against Shakur instead and turned it down.

What now?

 

How was Loma out-fought down the stretch in the Haney bout?

Two of the three judges in that fight gave 4 of the last 6 rounds to Lomachenko, including 2 of the last 3.

Not to mention the fact that Loma had Haney in big time trouble late in the fight.

So I feel compelled to inquire: did you even watch the fight, or does stupid just come that easily to you?

Hell, even in the Teo fight, he won 2 of the last 3 rounds on two of the judges cards.

Lomachenko defeated two champions and a perennial contender to win his 135lbs straps. When he lost his belt to Teo, he elected to fight the best available competition (Nakatani and Commey) to put himself back into position to get another title shot.

Or did you conveniently forget that part?

I won't even dignify the "lazy, part-time" fighter" ad hominem bullsh*t with a response.

As for the "what now," I suspect Loma will return in 2024, grab a belt at 135lbs, and eventually cash out in a unification fight with Shakur.

 

He lost the last round against Teo. He lost the last round against Haney. His "strategy" of doing absolute jack **** and waiting for his opponent to tire worked fine... until the hungrier fighter gutted it out both times down the stretch.

Nakatani and Commey weren't the best available fights. The best available fight was Devin Haney, which he wanted nothing to do with until Haney became undisputed. Or did you conveniently forget that part?

If your response is that he will continue being part time and "grab a belt" before "cashing out" against Shakur, I call bull****. Shakur vs Loma will never be a money fight. He has the opportunity to fight NOW, or let fanboys like you make excuses about how he's too old or too short.

T-rex is about to become extinct and the boxing world won't really miss him all that much. Sad!

 

So I see you've conveniently--and rather narrowly, I might add-- redefined "down the stretch" to merely mean the last round. LOL

Meanwhile, for those of us who don't need to engage in such linguistic gymnastics because we're not---you know, full of sh*t-- the definition of "down the stretch" means more than just one round.

Haney called out Teo after the latter beat Loma, settled for Jorge Linares, beat Diaz, then called out (and ultimately got) Kambosos. Show me where Haney made a viable offer to Loma after the Lopez fight that Loma turned down. If you can't, my original point stands that Commey and Nakatani were the best available options at that time.

Your insinuation that Loma was somehow scared of Haney is laughable in light of the fact that he 1) fought a more physically opposing and challenging opponent in Lopez first and 2) beat Haney in the opinion of most objective observers when they did fight.

You call "bullsh*t" regarding my Loma-Shakur remarks. And? Is that supposed to mean something to me? You claim Loma-Shakur will never be a money fight.

But which is most likely to make more money: if they fight for a vacant title now, or if they have a unification fight later? I'm optimistic--but not altogether confident--that even you can figure that one out.

 

Yes, Loma took about six rounds off in both the Teo and Haney fights and was therefore able to operate on a full tank of gas while making a run against young fighters that had expended tons of nervous energy. You find that impressive?

I see it as a lack of hunger on his part, best exemplified by the fact that he lost the last round in each of those fights, despite having all of the momentum. Teo and Haney simply wanted it more than him at the very end, despite being fatigued and severely outskilled.

Vasyl Lomachenko may have otherwordly skills, but what's the point of it if your goal is just to win 7-5? He's not hungry; inside of the ring nor out.

He turned down email champ Haney not out of fear, but simply because he had no interest until the stakes were high enough. Now, coming off another loss and having another title shot thrown at him, he's doing the same thing with Shakur.

Please understand that Loma/Shakur will NEVER be a cashout sort of fight. How is it going to generate much more than his fight with Haney? It won't. Any concept of him waiting for the perfect opportunity to make this fight is fictitous. He's old. He's never been a PPV attraction. He has three losses now. Neither of these guys are marketable. What are you even talking about?

A cashout would be him draining down to fight Inoue at 126, in Japan.