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In conclusion, Loma managed to lose the last round in both the Haney AND Teo fights, despite having all of the momentum in each. You typed a wall of text to tell how Vasyl Lomachenko, "ATG", wasn't at fault because he threw a whopping 55 punches while his overmatched and fatigued opponent stole the round from him. Gimme a break.

How many conclusions and final words have you made without mentioning the Teo fight, where Loma 's opponent threw 98 punches and hit him 50 times in the last round? You don't want to discuss that one? What about Loma throwing a comically low amount of punches for half the fight? What excuses do you have for that one?

Know what? Nevermind. F*ck the excuses; you can keep them. The fact is that your guy is 17-3 and avoiding another loss by ducking someone basically begging to give him another underserved title shot.

All the other great little guys were able to move up in weight and still be great, but poor Vasyl can only box 6 rounds because his arms are too short. Cry me a river.

I don't dislike Lomachenko. He is what he is: a contemporary great fighter with no real historical resume to speak of. 135 was his chance to solidify his place in history, but he's failed. It's whatever.

His fans are the actual pain in the ass.

 

You typed a wall of text....

No, I systematically obliterated your inane talking points, one by one, none of which you can dispute (and we both know it). That's why you quickly shifted from punch totals to punch intent, and why you've pivoted from the Haney fight to the Lopez fight. It's also why you've rather conveniently dropped the Shakur nonsense after I demonstrated that his punch outputs were quite comparable to Loma's and actually has fewer KOs in as many bouts despite fighting against inferior competition overall.

So, to the outside observer, our conversation looks something like this:

You: But Loma don't throw punches...why he fight like that, man?
Me: He threw more punches than Haney in 5 of the first 6 rounds, and more than 150+ overall.
You: *crickets*

You: But Loma don't throw with intent.. Haney and Shakur, they threw with intent yo!
Me: Loma hurt Haney late, not the other way round, and has more KOs in as many fights as Shakur despite fighting better opposition
You: *crickets*

As for your claim that I am making "excuses" for Lomachenko, that's an obvious red-herring since I've done no such thing. I believe he won the Haney fight, hence I have no need to make excuses.

Nor have I ever made excuses regarding the Lopez fight. I have consistently maintained that Lopez's combination of size, power and speed handcuffed Loma in the first half of that fight. He was unable to adjust quickly enough and lost as a result. So what? He was fighting a bigger, stronger, equally as fast fighter in his third weight class. Lopez is now belt-holder in an even heavier weight class. No shame in that loss whatsoever.

Frankly, you're beginning to bore me now. So, like I said before, go peddle your third rate analysis and angst-ridden psycho babble to someone who doesn't know any better.

 

What's up MGT?

Yeah, what's even more comical, however, is to see posters who are so obviously and transparently invested emotionally in disliking a fighter, referring to others as "delusional fanboys."

 

LOL. Look at you, still struggling to let go after saying goodbye a week ago. Vasyl Lomachenko is 17-3, bro. Deal with it.

He "struggled to adjust" to Teo, so he spent half the fight throwing 10 punches a round. But it was his third weight class.

He didn't do enough to win the last round against Haney. But he threw 55 punches.

You're comparing his opposition to Shakur, a fighter he is currently ducking. But it's because he wants it to marinate.

Nothing but bull**** excuses and the inability to accept reality, common traits that all Loma fanboys share. No one is going to talk about him when he retires, so why not start adjusting to that reality right now? He shouldn't even be mentioned until he signs to fight Shakur, honestly.

 

Against my better judgment, I'll offer one final response---consider it a public service.

Do you know why it was so easy to see how emotionally invested, laughably disingenuous, and embarrassingly dishonest you are? Because you apply your own standards so selectively.

You have relentlessly criticized Loma for failing to "open up" more, fighting too cautiously, and "taking six rounds off yo!" Yet, when I pointed out that 1) Loma threw more punches than Haney in 5 of the first 6 rounds, 2) Loma out-threw Haney by more than 150+ punches overall 3) Loma's punch output that fight was very much on par with your boy Shakur, did you apply that very same standard to either Haney or Shakur?

No, you immediately changed the standard you had applied to Loma to ....But Haney threw with intent....But Shakur sit down on his punches yo! (Of course, I then surgically dissected the stupidity of those comments as well, but I've already embarrassed you on that).

Do you know what an honest, unbiased, unemotional response would have been: "Hey those guys should punch more, too!"

But, no, not you. You pivoted more than a point guard who's picked up his dribble, immediately changed the standard, and then....wait for it......made excuses, the same thing you've accused me of without a shred of evidence.

And that, my friend, is because not only are you guilty of third rate analytical ability, you're also a hypocrite and so plainly full of sh*t.

Now I am done. Adios.

 

You were done a week ago. I didn't read this last one, but I'm sure that it's probably just more excuses to explain why Vasyl Lomachenko simply cannot do what truly ATG fighters before him have. In my heart, I know that Pac, JMM, EM, Barrera, Inoue, etc. would not possibly spend half a fight throwing ten punches a round... least of all against a 15-fight novice with an undisputed title on the line.

No post that you make will ever change the fact that he is 17-3 and will, inevitably, become a mere footnote in boxing history. Take your moral victory and be gone; I have no investment here.

Peace.