Devin Haney vs George Kambosos II this Sunday

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Way off Kambosos is levels above Peden.
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Thats why i said 2.0. Meaning a better version of Robbie Peden.:cool:
     
  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Australia is gonna have two undisputed world champs by January Kambosos and Tim Tszyu both originally from Tszyu gym in Rockdale.
     
  4. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Not a chance man, but dont let me kill your hopes.
     
  5. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm absolutely stunned they put this utter bull**** on real ESPN and not ESPN+

    Kambososo didn't win even 2 rounds, this borderline shameful
     
  6. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Agreed.
     
  7. Dragomir Slevak

    Dragomir Slevak New Member Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure he won two rounds.
     
  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    2 rounds is nada. Lol
     
  9. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    This is a 50/50 fight, I don’t know why people pretend that Haney was so dominant. He jabbed and held, he was one dimensional. If a ref doesn’t allow hugging that could be the fight for Kambosos right there.
     
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  10. Dragomir Slevak

    Dragomir Slevak New Member Full Member

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    I have mixed feelings about this fight. I'm rooting for Haney to win but I wouldn't mind if Kambosos won. I think it would cause such a commotion, a quake through the boxing world, that it would be enormously entertaining. Can Kambosos pull it off? I don't think so, and here's why:

    First, Kambosos' trainer quit (as well as his manager Peter Khan) because of George forcing a pay cut for both guys. So for this fight, it appears that George has been training himself. The moment a boxer starts training himself, it's all over 99 percent of the time.

    Second, a period of four months is not long enough to retrain oneself. And it certainly isn't when you are training yourself. So we will see a very similar George in the ring.

    Third, Haney is a "spoiler." His whole strategy was/is to sabotage George's offense. I suppose Kambosos should feel slightly flattered by Haney's tactics because when a fighter goes in to spoil the other fighters game, it is usually done because the other boxer is superior in some way or just so awkward to deal with that it's not worth the risk to allow the opponent to find his rhythm and gain momentum. I remember watching the first fight and thinking that Haney must believe he's in there with Mike Tyson the way he's clinching and holding. In my opinion, it was cringe worthy and slowed the fight down to such a degree that it put many off of the fight. But that is what a spoiler does. We've seen it before, from the likes of Rigondeaux and Fury (and from many others).

    The bottom line is that the spoiler doesn't believe he can compete on some level with the opponent, so you prevent the fight from ever getting to that point. So you break up your rhythm, disrupt and cause constant resets with a jab, stay of of range until a counter opportunity presents itself, counter and then immediately clinch, whether you're successful in your attack or not. Rinse and repeat. That's Haney's game plan, and since it worked so well last time, there is no reason to change. However ... and this leads me to the fourth point.

    Fourth, a Japanese referee will be reffing the fight, and apparently this referee is a "by the book" guy. He doesn't allow abusing the rules, such as excessive clinching, ducking below the belt and other "pro tactics." So that means that Haney's boxing as a spoiler will be impeded, maybe even prohibited. And if that's the case, then George has a chance to get his offense going, to actually get in the fight and have some momentum.

    So will the fight look the same as the last fight? It appears that it won't. Will it be more competitive? It appears that it will be a lot more competitive. Will George win? It's possible. But I also know that Haney will be taking more chances this fight, looking to stop Kambosos. And if Kambosos is being more aggressive, charging in to close the distance, we could see a KO from Haney, for the first time in a long time.

    Either way, I'll be tuning in because it's definitely going to be more exciting than the last one.
     
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  11. bandeedo

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    i dont think haney is as good under pressure as he needs to be in order to beat all the other fighters who want his belts. thats why i never really got excited over him geting the belts. feels temporary. but i dont think george is good enough to put the effective pressure that will see haney unravel.
     
  12. Dragomir Slevak

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    One last thing: It appears that Kambosos didn't bring in any sparring partners to replicate Devin. It's critical to have the right sparring partners. If George wins, I'll be shocked. Personally, I think there's a very good chance that Devin stops him.
     
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  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Just saw Bill Haney the pathetic old loser trying to make it about him at the press conference. He is lucky the fights not in Sydney the boys out here would have no problem shutting his fat mouth for him.
     
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  14. grantsorenson

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    Kambosos and Haney will reach a point where they will be happy to go the distance. Easy win for Haney and Kambosos goes home with a big cheque. Haney is not a guy who is stopping people really, especially someone who knows how to go into survival mode
     
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  15. Dragomir Slevak

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    Yeah. Kambosos is not a big puncher. He has speed to hurt his opponent, but he doesn't have stopping power, that's for sure. At least, like you said, not against opponents who know how to survive or mitigate that power.

    I honestly think that Kambosos is going to get stopped in this fight. I think all the signs are there. Mentally agitated. He doesn't look right mentally at all. For Kambosos to fire his whole team and go it alone is a terrible sign. I mean, I get why he fired Javier Centeno because he was absolutely unprepared for Haney. He had no clinch defense; no way of cutting off the ring effectively, of negating Haney's jab. I never saw George try to show that he's trying to work while being clinched, trying to land something. He just would go limp or hold on, which I get, but still I thought he should show the ref who's really clinching because he got blamed for it sometimes. For me, Centeno should take a good portion of the blame.

    Haney is a really negative boxer, and it can be super frustrating for the opponent. And I think George is frustrated with many things, which might just make him desperate or reckless. I don't know man ... I think I see Kambosos getting slept with an overhand right in this fight. He refuses to use a high guard and relies on catching shots on his shoulder.
     
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