Devin Haney vs George Kambosos II this Sunday

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  1. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Might trade it in for a cardboard box soon!

    There's something about GK that's very hate-able.

    Not my college games!
     
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  2. drenlou

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    Will be more of the same come Saturday night in the states

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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    george made it real easy for him. no head movement at all. no dipping, slipping, weaving or bouncing. he just coiled up ready to counter against a guy too fast to give him the window. and he had no plan b. i agree with drago above, he wasnt prepared.
    haney has habits. habits that a good trainer with the right fighter can exploit. kambosos is neither.
     
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  4. f1ght3rz

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    Kambosos looked like a fool in the first fight. That was an Andy Ruiz vs. Joshua II type of performance. Lackluster BS. He better comes to fight this time or he should retire. You can lose to a better fighter but you should at least TRY to win & fight. He was trying to box with a boxer which was one of the worst ideas i have ever seen from a guy who is known for his pressure and rough style. I'm definitely picking Haney to win as i can't bank on such a tool again but overall i'm not very excited for this one. Haney is featherfisted and boring to watch and Kambosos is probably not skilled enough to win. It could be another ugly, boring 12 round decision with 9-3/10-2 rounds for Haney. I prefer a good gym session on Sunday morning instead of watching this ****.
     
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  5. drenlou

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    I agree. I just dont see anything Kambosos can do differently to win the rematch. Hes not an elite fighter who can take advantage of Haney's mistakes when he makes one.
     
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  6. Serge

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    Haney's not that good he's just a natural 147 pounder beating up on 135 and blown up 126 and 130 or shot old 135 pounders who he holds huge physical advantages over.

    He's literally never fought a prime world champion his own size before

    Kambosos is the only prime one at 135 who was a world champion at that weight he's fought and he's a lot naturally bigger and heavier than him too

    These are the four world champions he's beaten

    A shot beyond belief 39 y/o inactive Gamboa who should be 7-6 at 135 and had only stopped 2 of his last 12 opponents and one of them was shot and had only fought once in three years, and had been out for 11 months. Haney weighs two weight classes more than Gamboa and has 6'' in reach on him and Gamboa was very chinny even way back in his prime against opponents his own size. He's been dropped in like at least 11 separate fights for goodness sake and been down well over 20 times in total.

    A near 36 y/o old completely washed inactive Linares who was 3-2 in his last 5 fights, both losses via KO, one to a badly injured natural 126 pounder Loma, who hadn't fought in 15 months and Haney is a lot naturally bigger and heavier than him too. Again, Linares had a reputation for being chinny even in his prime and like Gamboa has been stopped in every single one of his other losses

    And Haney was hurt badly by that inactive washed rusty shell of Linares and had the bell not come to his rescue he would've got KTFO (Linares is an excellent finisher with very fast hands) and he had to run and hold like an octopus in the last 2 rounds to avoid getting clipped again. A prime or even closer to prime active Linares would've 100% knocked his ass out and there's no way he would've let him off the hook in those final two rounds after hurting him, assuming Haney lasted that long which I very much doubt he would of

    Haney is the only fighter to never stop either Gamboa or Linares in their combined 12 losses and most of those losses occurred against fighters their own size or smaller when they were in their primes. Haney fought shells of them and he's the biggest fighter either have fought, or at worst 2nd biggest, and he couldn't even wobble them despite hitting them with everything bar the kitchen sink all night

    Career 126 pounder Jojo who had only fought at the weight once before, a controversial decision against Fortuna I and many others feel could've gone either way. Again it was a huge size mismatch. Haney is a lot naturally bigger, longer and heavier than Jojo and he had a 7'' reach advantage on him. Even worse, he was rocked by featherfist Jojo who had only stopped 2 of his last 12 opponents

    So that just leaves Kambosos who deserves credit for fighting the fight of his life against Teofimo but it coincided with a far too emotional hyped up Teofimo fighting the worst of his. He fought like a complete moron coming out of the gates like a lunatic trying to live up to his pre-fight boast of a KO1 and he ended up getting caught and dropped and that just exacerbated everything for him and it took him forever to calm down and start using his brain.

    And it's clear now Kambosos struggles against boxers as evidenced by the SD wins over a way past it inactive Bey who had literally only fought once in 3.5 years, against a 3-5-1 tomato can, and past prime career 126 Selby. Bey just so happens to be Haney's, or was up until recently, assistant trainer. Hence why Haney was so confident of travelling to Australia, because they obviously figured if a same size inactive way past it boxer Bey can cause Kambosos so many problems a younger much bigger active Haney can do a lot better especially with all the info Bey could pass on to him after sharing a ring with Kambosos. Not rocket science.

    Like I said, Haney hasn't ever fought a prime world champion his own size before and none of his crybaby fans who boo hoo about him not being ranked P4P had Kambosos ranked in their P4P top 10 after he beat Teofimo so they can STFU. I'm not saying he isn't a good and talented fighter. He is. But the fact that he's absolutely massive for the weight and is so safety-first is what makes him difficult to beat. If he was the same size as the rest of these guys instead of two or even three in some instances divisions heavier them things would be very different indeed.
     
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  7. Betyabeatyaup

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    Can people seriously not see that Haney is missing 95% of the jabs here? No wonder people think it was one-sided if the average persons vision is that bad.

    Seriously, do people hear the silly noise Haney makes when he throws a jab and think he’s landing? Or is it the blind commentators getting excited at missed punches? If that fight wasn’t so boring I’d watch it back and score it again, the video makes it look like Kambosos won.
     
  8. Betyabeatyaup

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    What world are people living in? Watch the fight. Haney is the same level as Kambosos. Neither guy is elite. Haney looked lackluster as well, it was a close fight. You don’t need to take advantage of mistakes, Haney gives it to you. He was outboxed by Kambosos at times. This is a very winnable fight for Kambosos.
     
  9. box33

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    Kamboso's naturally smaller than most in his division especially Haney,

    Was flatfooted last time they fought, didn't try anything new or adapt or show any urgency at all, couldn't get past Haney's jab, didn't even try fighting on the inside, smaller arms, Barely jabs himself & doesn't seem to carry that one punch KO power either,

    Yeah it doesn't look good for him.
     
  10. Jackman65

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    Haney is feather fisted but I don’t see this as a competitive fight. Hope Haney didn’t take it lightly because Kambosos has almost no chance of winning even if he fights his best fight. I was disappointed by his game plan in the first fight but realistically it didn’t matter. Kambosos is a B level fighter who will quickly disappear from the scene after he loses. Maybe Tank will fight him if he looks really bad against Haney.

    Rematches are occasionally good but I don’t see this one being worth watching even for free. I haven’t even checked to see if it’s PPV because I’m not interested. Zzz.
     
  11. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haney is 23 and getting better everyday
    Kambosos here to cash out - nothing more, nothing less

    Not a great fight but Kambosos will eat 30% more leather. Possibly fake an injury and quit in the late rounds.

    Getting better and bigger (I should add) everyday *
     
  12. Dragomir Slevak

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    That's a pretty fair assessment of Haney's progress so far, although maybe a little unfair. He is excellent with his jab and step back. He was causing Linares a lot of problems in that fight. I wonder what the fight would have looked like had Linares not trained himself for that fight. As soon as Linares left Salas, it was downhill for him.

    The problem with Haney is that a lot of his defense relies on breaking the rules of the sport. That's my biggest issue. It's hard for me to say, "Yeah, that guy has elite defense" when it's based on techniques that should lead to warnings and point deductions. I also have an issue with the commentary these days. It's not real commentary anymore but propaganda for the network boxer. Sergio Mora commentated on almost all of Devin's televised fights, and he would do nothing but glorify everything Haney did and go silent if the opponent did anything well. The only time that changed was when Haney fought JoJo Diaz. Was that Sergio's inherit bias? I think so ... just a bit.

    Many boxers these days are matched to make them look good, at least until they get a title shot and have title defenses. Haney is now in that stage of his career where it's time to put up or shut up. No more lobs for him to hit them out of the park. It's fast balls and sliders from here on out, so now we at least have the opportunity to see if Haney is as good as he thinks he is.

    It's too late for him to change the mistakes that he makes, such as dipping to the right to avoid punches. That's a very easy mistake to exploit, so I won't be surprised if we see Haney lose by KO/TKO sometime soon. A shot behind the ear by a man that can hit closes the curtains for the show. Remember when Boots took out Clayton? Haney is a KO waiting to happen IMO.
     
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  13. Serge

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    Thanks. It's all true but you have to factor in the ignorant crap his grotesque fanbase say about other fighters all the time on social media, especially his rivals. I've had so many run ins with them. I'm not saying he isn't a good fighter but when you're absolutely massive for the weight and have never even fought a prime world champion your own size STFU about P4P and trying to discredit far more accomplished fighters who are in their third or fourth weight class slaying giants who are two or three divisions heavier than them and hold big/huge reach advantages over them.

    Yes great defence to me is not running, holding, stiff-arming and keeping it long, let alone doing so against fighters you're much naturally bigger, heavier and longer than because you're massive for the weight.

    Let's see how he fares in his third or fourth division facing the best fighters and biggest punchers at those weights when he doesn't have all the physical advantages. He'd have to go up higher than 147 for that to happen though
     
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  14. Dragomir Slevak

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    Yup. He's saying that everyone is ducking him, that everyone says "everything except let's fight." It's such a load of ****. He notoriously will call guys out when he knows the fight is impossible to make. He's been doing that to Tank and Loma for ages now. Now recently he's been going after Keyshawn Davis (whom I'm a big fan of), calling him out when Shakur is the one who said he wants to fight Devin. It's ridiculous.

    I think people are catching onto his MO. You can't say Tank is ducking you when you're scheduled to fight someone else. Same thing with Loma, but that's an old story now.

    He says the belts haven't gone to his head, but I can see that it has, which is good to be honest. Before he lacked to confidence to actually fight these guys he's saying are ducking him, but now, I think he finally believes in himself. Let's see him get tested. Personally, I think Loma gives him a beating. My only worry is that we won't get to see the fight because he'll vacate, saying that he can't make weight anymore, which is a load of ****. Every boxer can make weight so long as he doesn't let himself go. If he's consistent and professional, he can make 135 until he's in his 30s. When boxers can't make a weight class anymore, it's because they aren't living a clean life between fights. So if he moves to 140 without fighting Loma, he's ducking. Plain and simple. (Which would be absolutely cringe considering he's been calling Loma out for years.)
     
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  15. Serge

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    Yeah they are

    The whole thing is ridiculous but his grotesque fans have been all over social media and still are everyday spewing this nonsense

    Loma who has taken risks like no other coming out of the gate, has literally toyed with a bunch of excellent fighters like they were bums these agenda-driven clowns (rightfully) rated very highly and picked to beat him, fought the far more proven, far more risky and dangerous, murderous punching actual reigning world champion Teofimo instead of completely unproven prospect Haney who literally hadn't fought anyone at the time and can't punch through cobwebs.

    Teo iced out the teak-tough massive 154lb lightweight reigning IBF champ Commey who had never been dropped or stopped in 2 rounds in spectacular HL reel fashion.

    And he iced common opponent he shares with Haney Mason Menard out cold on his face with a single devastating right hand in under a round, the same Menard who Haney could only get out of there on a corner retirement after 9 rounds and he couldn't even drop once

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    Teo was not only the far more risky and dangerous fight for Loma, and a unification match up between two real champions, it was the fight the fans wanted to see, not Loma vs some boring featherfisted unproven prospect who hadn't fought anyone :facepalm:

    If Teo detonated one of his bombs on Haney's chin he'd lay him out cold. Career 126 featherfist leprechaun Jojo rocked Haney for goodness sake

    Yeah I won't be surprised if he vacates either. Not saying he will but he's already taking about everyone knows he's ''huge for the weight class'' and having to wait and see if he can still make the weight