Devin Miles Haney vs. Vasyl Anatoliyovych Lomachenko & Junto Nakatani vs. Andrew Moloney RBR.

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  1. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Don’t bring up the Eddie Hearn thing again. I avoided the British fourm for the first year of being on here cause all I heard was people fighting over Hearn.
     
  2. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should stop constantly posting ridiculous pro MR stuff then. It’s really immature.

    Knocking the fight tonight in Vegas is pathetic.
     
  3. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I really hope Loma takes this but I do have my doubts

    Haney just has hardly ever entertained me and Loma has on many an occasion

    Having a entertaining fighter as champ imo is always better for the sport
     
  5. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Loma loses tonight there is no god.
     
  6. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Lomachenko is up against it tonight.

    Haney is much bigger, he's a natural welterweight fighting a natural featherweight. His arms are MUCH longer than Loma's.

    Haney at age 24 and entering his prime, Loma at age 36 is past his best.

    Bob Arum will have the officials side with Haney, since Loma is nearing the end of his career. Haney will be permitted to hold, push, grapple, head butt and use whatever other dirty tactics he wants, there may be a quick stoppage in favor of Haney. If it goes to the scorecards, the judges will score it for Haney regardless of what happens during the fight.

    Devin Haney is a pile of stinking dog poop, and I hope Loma somehow finds a way to win. But I can't get my hopes up too high, Loma is really up against it here.

    Here’s how the experts see it:

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    “Haney is younger, bigger and faster. He’s the favorite but Lomachenko is special. Timing beats speed but does he have that one big effort left in him? I lean towards Haney. I think he’ll give Lomachenko problems early and by the time Loma has downloaded the necessary data, he’ll have to dig himself out of a hole on the scorecards. I think he’ll come back at Haney but will lose something like 8-4 on the scorecards, which translates to 116-112.”

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    “Lomachenko may not be the force of nature he was a few years ago but I don’t think he is as bad as what he showed in the Ortiz fight because I believe part of the aftermath was based on the high bar Loma didn’t meet and the low bar Ortiz leapt over. The stakes of this fight will inspire the 35-year-old Lomachenko to produce his best effort but I believe that Haney, who is 11 years younger, will use his youth, reach, intelligence and the experience he has gained in his string of title fights to win on points.”

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    “It’s hard to envision Loma being outboxed by Haney but I can definitely see Loma being outfoxed, outpunched and outmuscled by Haney. Loma is long-overdue for a comeuppance not only because of his age but also because of his lackadaisical behavior in his last few fights, including those idiotic antics that cost him his fight against Teofimo Lopez. His custom of training, using gadgets, props and toys that don’t punch back may be good Instagram material but they don’t help him any up in the ring either. If Linares sent down on his ass, Haney can do the same – and for a few more seconds too. I wouldn’t expect a stoppage or a bad beating but a two-to-three-point win is definitely within reach for Haney.”

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    “This looks like a classic case of a changing of the guard clash between a young boxer entering his prime against an aging legend in the final stages of his career. The last thing a pressure boxer like Lomachenko wants to see in the opposing corner is a quick defensive boxer who picks his punches intelligently and that is what I see in Haney. While I respect Loma for all his accomplishments (and would pick him if both were in their primes), Haney does everything Loma did faster and with a bit more zip now. The 11-year age gap is just too much for Lomachenko to overcome but it could be a chess match the judges have a hard time evaluating. So, picking the draw may be a good bet. Still, I am going with a Haney decision by three or four points.”

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    “Lomachenko isn’t what he was but what he used to be was arguably the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, so, if he’s slipping, it’s from a high place. Haney has skill and youth on his side and you can go broke betting against youth but I think Lomachenko has at least one great effort in him. He needs to start quicker and not give away too many early rounds. If he doesn’t, Haney is in for a lot surprises. Loma will ask questions Haney may not be ready to answer. I like Loma but, however it goes, we will learn a lot about both fighters by the time this one is over.”

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    “From height to reach, all of the relevant numbers favor Haney. So, too, do the years. Haney is 24; Vasiliy Lomachenko is 35. That would suggest Haney is entering his prime and Lomachenko is leaving his. Don’t believe it. Lomachenko, the older man, has fewer fights than Haney but he learned tricks Haney has never seen, especially during a storied Olympic career. He’ll test Haney – maybe frustrate him – but the unbeaten Haney has displayed unusual poise. Maintain – sustain – that poise and Haney narrowly wins a battle of tactics and wits.”

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    “If this bout would’ve taken place prior to Lomachenko’s loss to Teofimo Lopez, I would’ve given the former champ the vote of confidence. That said, by no means do I believe Loma is washed but this is the wrong time in history to square up to the bigger, considerably younger champ in his obvious prime. As is his wont, Lomachenko is a slow starter. By the time he warms up, four rounds, give or take, into the bout, Haney will have already lapped him on the preceding scorecards. Will Loma give Haney fits? Pretty darn likely. However I see Haney earning the unanimous decision, 116-112.”
     
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  7. Sonny1

    Sonny1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    100% bud.
     
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  8. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A fresh future of the sport is waiting for Haney at 140lbs .. Naturally bugg
    Adam Azim 20yrs old 5'10 at 140lbs ... like to see Haney try to bully him in the future .. Adam will spark Haney out in under 6rds .. Adam too fast too strong for slow pillow hands Haney lol
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would love it if Loma could resurrect himself, but then, Haney is a good guy and has the youth on his side.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Did you miss the weigh in yesterday, and most of the build up to this fight? Haney is a PIECE OF ****.
     
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  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't know.
     
  13. 250lbs

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    Nice crisp fighter Amari Jones
     
  14. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Haney is no busta as he can spoil anything including a simple weigh in

    WAR LOMA
     
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  15. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    This is the first time I've ever bet against a fighter I'm actively rooting for. But needed the fight for my parlay. If Haney wins I'll potentially pocket $800 winnings, and I feel... disgusted with myself.

    That being said... War Loma.
     
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