Devon Alexander is massively overrated

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Apr 13, 2010.


  1. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Hmmm, didn't he win a majority decision over a former world champion last night? So he's now 24-0, with two World titles and is 3-0 (2 KO's) in World Title fights...yeah tuff to imagine how he manages to get out of bed in the morning. You definitely called that ****...oh wait, nevermind you were absolutely wrong, get at me when someone beats him. So you want to credit someone for "almost winning" as an indictment against the kid, so how many other fighters can we go through and discredit because they "almost lost" to someone?
     
  2. theflyest

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    It's time to go ahead & throw Devon in with the big dogs before he loses to lesser fighters. Gotta make the money for DKP
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Have you considered that the kid is a kid? He was in his hometown, his entire family was ringside, the St Louis Rams were Ringside, PBF and Evander Holyfield were ringside, Corey Spinks the other hometown guy was KO'd earlier in the night, and he was trying a little too hard to "deliver" for the hometown fans? As opposed to doing what he's done in the other 23 fights of his pro career, he pressed, stood in front of the guy, tried to knock him out, wasted a lot of energy and put himself in a tuff situation, but he won and that's what's most important he won a tuff fight, and there's no reason to believe he can't/won't learn from this experience. I would think it would be more logical to look at the 23 fights in which his performance has been fairly consistent as the "rule", as opposed to focusing on the 1, which based on what we've seen to date would constitute being the "exception".
     
  4. gruuby

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    FTFY, another USA robbery and I'm from USA.
     
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  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Dude, I don't need to make excuses for the kid, HE WON THE ****ING FIGHT. In relation to social science and "the way people respond/react" it's short sided to not consider all variables and how they may affect the given situation, the kid was under a lot of pressure to perform and he over did it, but again what's most important is the kid won the fight.
     
  7. Relentless

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    so?

    this isn't a ****en soap opera, none of that drama queen **** matters here.

    evander holyfield beat dwight muhammad qawi infront of his home town with 10 pro fights with his fmaily, friends and other pro boxers watching and he did it convincingly.
     
  8. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And PBF needs to make a damn fight with Pac. What the **** is his snitch ass doin in the crowd?

    He needs to just hide considerin the bull**** he's pullin.
     
  9. Relentless

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    whether he fights pac or not he has accomplished ALOT

    never in floyds career would he have struggled with a fighter like kotelnik, alexander just isn't that good.
     
  10. Jack

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    I wrote this thread after the Urango fight, mate. I wasn't calling him overrated after that fiasco on Saturday, but after his best win.

    And I do still consider him overrated. People were rating him as the best light welter in the world but I don't think he's even close to that. I rate him behind Kotelnik, obviously, Khan, Bradley and Maidana. I still think Ortiz knocks him out too. Maybe Judah would?

    The thing is, he's only looked good against Witter at the elite level. That's a shot Witter who had to pull out. He wasn't very impressive against Urango and he should have lost a clear decision against Kotelnik. I'm not totally against him but my point has always been that he is "overrated" and I maintain that.

    His age isn't really important. He's a world champion and was expected to ease by Kotelnik. It was a good styles match-up, Kotelnik was inactive, Alexander was in his home town - Yet Kotelnik thoroughly outboxed him. He made him look limited.
     
  11. Jack

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    Ortiz is just a better fighter. I don't really care about that defeat. It was a learning curve and he'll be back. When he is, I think he has the talent to go to the top. He's more skilled than Alexander, hits hard enough to beat Khan and Bradley, and should be able to outbox Maidana.

    Maybe some of that wouldn't happen. I would pick Bradley over him and Maidana again right now. He has genuine potential though, unlike Alexander, who he would beat tommorow.

    The loss was bad but he can bounce back. It's the kind of loss a fighter can improve from, a key example being Khan. Being outboxed by a guy who was shut out by a supposed lesser fighter, is much more telling.
     
  12. Jack

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    He was outboxed and made to look like an amatuer against a guy with a perfect style for him, coming off a shutout loss, inactive and in Alexander's home town. It was supposed to be another impressive win and Kotelnik was chosen because they expected a more impressive performance than what Khan achieved. Basically, a stoppage. The truth is, Kotelnik won most of the rounds despite every disadvantage and lost a terrible, gift decision.

    Most people expected a dominant win, including the promoters, who were deep in negotiation for a Bradley fight. Nobody expected him to be exposed like he was. He looked like an amatuer with poor accuracy and no defence.
     
  13. Jack

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    My point has always been that he's "overrated" not that he's a complete bum. His promoter was rating him massively, as were other promoters. He was considered number 1 or 2 in the division. The Ring rated him highly, every boxing journalist did, 99% on ESB did. Some were saying he was P4P now and a certainty for the future.

    Don't you think that a fighter worthy of such praise should be able to handle the situation? He was in there with a guy who had every disadvantage and still looked poor. And you mention the magnitude of the situation but for the majority of people, that makes them perform out of their skin. Look at how the fighters in the Super 6 have been affected by the home town influence. There's still not been a loss in a fighters home town.

    That isn't the exception. It's the first world class opposition he's fought, when you acknowledge Witter was shot, and he should have lost. It wasn't a one-off. He stepped up and got beat down. He isn't world class.
     
  14. Reppin501

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    So Ortiz crying and quiting on hsi stool, talking about never fighting again because he got his ass whipped so severely is "something you don't care about" and "you think he'll bounce back", yet Alexander who has never been down in his life, hasn't lost a pro fight, and is a World Champion in his division, is "overrated". Either way, we'll see how it shakes out, but regardless what happens Alexander would beat the dog **** out of Ortiz and I really can't believe you would go to that length to try and prove some hypothetical point and essentially discredit all the other points you could have made.
     
  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Lol...an amature, cool. I'll be sure and bump this thread when the time comes, but this from the cat who think Ortiz is better, OK.