Dick Tiger vs. Bernard Hopkins

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  1. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who gets the decision?
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Hopkins by decision. He'd stay away a bit and ambush, put a few moves on. No-one takes Tiger head on but Hopkins can box plenty and would seldom if ever get into exchanges. He'd use his height and reach to narrowly outpoint the tank.
     
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  3. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The young Richard Tiger was a wrecking machine. I take him over many of the modern mw's including Hopkins
     
  4. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins against a real MW not the blown up 147 lbs Trinidad and De La Hoya. Nigerian strongman mauls Hopkins and as usual Hopkins whinges why he was robbed.
     
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  5. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Griffith outboxed Tiger twice..for what its worth:
    1966-04-25 : Emile Griffith 150½ lbs beat D. Tiger 160 lbs by UD in round 15 of 15
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    • Tiger was an 8-5 favorite.
    • A crowd of 14,934 produced a gate of $147,536.
    • Griffith floored Tiger in round nine. It was the first knockdown of Tiger's career.
    • Judge Castellano's scorecard was 7-7-1 in rounds but went to supplemental scoring.
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    • 1970-07-15 : Emile Griffith 157 lbs beat Dick Tiger 167 lbs by UD in round 10 of 10
      Griffth breezes past Tiger
      Associated Press | July 16, 1970

      Emile Griffith breezed past slow, ring-rusty 40-year-old Dick Tiger last night and won a unanimous decision in a 10-round match at Madison Square Garden.

      Tiger, who weighed 167, had a 10-pound edge on Griffith, 157.

      There were no knockdowns or anything close to it although Tiger did slip down briefly in the fifth round of the fight, witnessed by a crowd of 8,071 paying $46,976 and special network television audience.

      Tiger, plainly showing his age and the effects of an eight-month layoff, was unable to cope with Griffith's constant moves and quick hands.

      Although Griffith, 32, was a few notches below his old form when he held the welter and middleweight crowns, he was an easy winner in this rematch of a disputed fight of four year ago.

      When they met in 1966, Griffith won Tiger's world middleweight crown on a unanimous but disputed decision. Tiger had waited four years for a chance to get even, but it was too late.

      The fans cheered Tiger and booed Griffith when he bounced into the ring wearing a purple velvet jacket with yellow trim. They booed during the fight when he showboated and did the old Kid Gavilan or Ali shuffle and stuck out his head as though daring Tiger to hit him.

      The Tiger was unable to put together combinations. When he did get close enough to Griffith to cut loose he only threw them one at a time. Too often missing. Only in the final seconds of the last round did he break through with any effectiveness.

      Referee Della stepped between the two men in the 10th round and warned them for talking to one another. Tiger gestured that Griffith had started it, as, indeed he had. Griffith appeared to be taunting Tiger throughout the fight.

      Emile, spurred by the shrill magpie chirps of his mother and cousin Bernard in ringside seats, bobbed his head, bounced on his toes, flicked jabs and threw few solid punches. [1]


      Note:
      This was the final fight of Tiger's career. He died 17 months later of liver cancer.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    The balance of probabilities is that Hopkins wins a UD. Of course Tiger has a chance, and would be a live underdog, but he's also pretty inconsistent and lost to lesser fighters than Hops. He beat Fullmer, which says that his highs are good enough to take the W, but his consistency just isn't that great.
     
  7. Fergy

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    Hopkins would win but he wouldn't be able to do it relaxed. Dick would have Hopkins holding on several times through the fight as he's rocked by the strong man .It would end in a split decision ,with the crowd totally against the result.
     
  8. BCS8

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    That's because Hopkins was as boring as a week old dog dropping left in the sahara desert. Effective, yes. Consistent, yes. But boring. Borenard, ;)
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Lol so do u mean u find him less than thrilling to watch ??
     
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    Then Hopkins challenges LaMotta saying there's no way he'd lose to a white boy.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Hopkins would win this one I think. In fact, I feel very sure of it. I think an older (not oldest!) Hopkins would win a very dull fight with Tiger failing to get going.
     
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  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    To anyone thinking it would be an easy night for Hopkin's...

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  14. red cobra

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    It was quipped by a witty boxing writer of the 60's that "a good trombone player could beat Dlck Tiger"(except he spelled Tiger's first name correctly)...meaning, of course that a good boxer with a jab had the ingredients to do the trick....citing Archer, Giardello, Griffith, etc.,...so, I guess that Hopkins could possibly have won,...but...it would take a no-nonsense work ethic and discipline to turn the trick....and none of that **** he pulled with Calzaghe and others...the pathetic play acting, faking being fouled, ect.,...
     
  15. red cobra

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    Tiger was a tremendously strong man at middleweight, and a purposeful, no nonsense, hurtful, powerful puncher...which would call for a serious, no bullshlt type of effort from Hopkins. I would be cheering Tiger on all the way, needless to say.
     
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