Dick Tiger vs. Marcel Cerdan

I wasn't directly comparing him to Robinson, I figured the point of my post was pretty damn simple, but I guess not.

He chose against Tiger because of his KO percentage and a few losses he'd racked up, and based on that, rather than styles matchups, he favored Cerdan, who himself was quite overrated in terms of overall competition. Tiger had a much larger amount of top wins than Cerdan as well, something you didn't take into consideration with the losses.

 

I didnt say Cerdan would beat Tiger,I took issue at your analogy.Cerdan's record is studded with nobodies,You keep saying what I think ,that's two posts you have done it ,if this keeps up I will be redundant ,but perhaps that is your plan.

 

BIG DEE HERE= SUZIE Q, You don`t know what the hell your talking about as LaMotta had no chance against Cerdan and knew it. He came out in the first rd and picked Cerdan up and intentionally drove Cerdans left shoulder into the ring floor partly dislocating Cerdan`s left shoulder. Cerdan then fought Jake LaMotta for the next 10rds with only his right hand as his left was useless. Cerdan bearly being able to even lift it to defend himself with it.
THERE NOT A BOXING HISTORIAN ON THE PLANET THAT WOULD PUT DICK TIGER ABOVE MARCEL CERDAN NO ONE. IBRO HAS TIGER AT No 17 WHILE CERDAN IS AT No 7 AND THAT`S WHERE HE SHOULD BE AS TIGER WAS AN IN
AN OUTER OVER HIS CAREER.

 

A certain wistful sadness thinkin' about Tiger and Cerdan. Watched them fight and train when they were in NY.

Last time I saw Tiger was in the lobby of the old Garden on 52nd and Eigth. We shook hands. How limp and unthreatening it was.

Remember thinkin' at the time, in trunks he coulda posed for the giant bronze in a boxing stance that greeted everyone going into the arena.

But, with his sad eyes, blank expression, sloping shoulders and ill-fitting thrift-shop clothes and '30s hamburg, it was almost impossible to imagine him the implacable destroyer he was.

Cerdan was a polar opposite -- a magnate for people, a bear of a man who took a big bite outta life, and it was contageous. A warm smile for everyone in the Bronx gym. To be around him was to root for him.

He was a dynamo sparring -- furious combinations and handspeed. His sessions with Italo Scortichini were intense.

Hearing Cerdan's plane crashed was as stunning as if it was a family member.

 

I remember a quote from Tiger when asked about his lack of sartorial elegance,he replied "don't judge me on the clothes I wear ,judge me on the clothes my children wear".Pretty much sums up the man. imo.

 

Yes im sure a hungry tiger who has been fighting against the best competition in the world for a decade......... waiting for YEARS for a title shot(just took a dive for a title shot).......finally gets his shot yet would go into the ring knowing he could not beat a unproven middleweight champion who was dropped 3 times by anton raddick.

 

Yes, people focus on Cerdan's lack of depth against top competition, but forget that all his of his defeats in over 100 fights were understandable. Two were on fouls. One was on a disputed hometown decision which was immediately reversed, and the one to LaMotta was marred by an injury.
This makes it possible to spin Cerdan's record either way. His record is pumped up against second-raters. He was better than almost everyone they put in front of him.

I would focus on the good fighters he did meet. He had 10 fights against opponents rated when he fought them and won 8. His loss to Delannoit was a hometown decision and he was 33 and injured when he lost to LaMotta. In fairness, Anton Raadik had him down 3 times in the tenth and close to a ko. Cerdan went into the 10th far enough ahead to still win. And Raadik certainly could bang. He ko'd Christoforidis, Bell, and Abrams.

A list of Cerdan's name victims include Tony Zale, Holman Williams, George Abrams, Harold Green, and Dick Turpin, all highly rated.

I think Cerdan outpoints Tiger.