Dick Tiger vs Thomas Hearns Hearns At 160

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tiger would be way too strong for Hearns..he would wear down Tommy in 10 rounds, with 2 kd's before the end.
     
  2. teeto

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    I always felt that in terms of pure boxing on the outside, and keeping away from danger, Hearns was more effective at the higher weights like middle, dare i say he had a better defence. Anyway i'm still backing Tiger to stop him at some point, Tiger's power is not as good as Hearns', but if he catches him with something clever, his hands are so fast he can finish it imo.
     
  3. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearn's would do very well to bargain with Tiger. He was terribly strong up close. Strong enough to continually threaten rather than merely push like Roldan did; more of a Hagler situation this one. A man of stone he was, that right would sting, not smash.

    It's difficult to see Hearn's wrap this one up with his outside boxing, Tiger's automatic advances would eventually melt him down.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hearns' best hope would have been to strictly box, jab, jab and jab at Tiger, and give up any hope of a ko, and I still don't think he would be able to cope with Tiger's strength.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    Possibly, but saying he could do this or that if the situation called for it, despite evidence to the contrary, doesn't hold much merit in my eyes. If Hearns knew that he wouldn't need to slug it out, and would have a much better chance on the outside, I don't see why he couldn't do it. I favor Hearns, that doesn't mean I think Tiger is without chance. In fact, this is a very close matchup, I'm just choosing a side based on my logic and what I've seen.
     
  6. McGrain

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    What do you make of my thought as regards the affect of Tiger's pressure upon Hearns's mindset. God-damn hard getting pressured around the ring all night versus fighter that you can't discourage.
     
  7. he grant

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    Hears has the style to beat him at 160 but not the chin or stamina ... maybe a ten round decison, doubtful but maybe ... 15 rounds, no way ...
     
  8. red cobra

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    It took a lighthevy...a letahl, full sized lightheavy named Bob Foster to ko Tiger...IMO, no welterweight or middleweight in history could equal that.
     
  9. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll second this...and add that Tiger was also near the end of his career.
     
  10. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tiger actually did win fights with a steady swarming attack early in his career (see his fight with Victor Zalazar, for example) before he became a spot-picking counterpuncher, and he showed occasionally in later fights (ie: the third Fullmer fight) that he could revert back to that ceaseless attack if the need called for it.

    I think it's important to note that Tiger fought a number of tall, rangy fighters in his career (ie: Zalazar, Benvenuti, Rousse) and showed he could get to them consistently. Even against Foster, he was able to land on Foster a number of times in the first 2 or 3 rounds, before Foster finally found him with that hook.
     
  11. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The size difference between Foster and Tiger was ridiculous but I thought Tiger was actually doing a good job taking away Foster's height and reach advantage until he got caught with the left hook. He landed on Foster with some regularity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_5ra9W4Tm0

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  12. red cobra

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    That's essentially why I would pick Tiger to whip Hearns..not just beat him. The relentless pressure that Tiger would bring would have utterly discouraged Hearns, and his vaunted power would have been of no use..hell Hearns was powerful, but was no Bob Foster, who was also a natural lightheavyweight..and no middleweight, let alone a welterweight of any time in history was going to ko Tiger. Ironically Emile Griffith was the first to deck Tiger...but that was just one of those isolated one of a kind occurances that wouldn't be likely to be repeated, even by a harder punching middle than Griffith. That pressure from Tiger would have been too much for Tommy's mind, as well as for that long, slim torso of his.
     
  13. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tiger stays on top of Hearns negates his power,and takes to Hearns body,Tiger wins by tko.
     
  14. AREA 53

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    Tommy's results above Lt Middle were often plagued with risk Michael Olajade seemed to put a very brief Tremble into Tommy's Legs,
    Likewise James Heat Kitchen Stunned Tommy and Made Tommy produce a clinch so long i though the Ref had sent off for a Crowbar to part them ! Ray Leonard in the Return had Tommy in trouble in the last two rounds, and Iran Barkley og course bombed him out, and if even Earnie singletary can stand defiant against Tommy then i think Tommy may have to move like a Thomsons Gazelle after taking a dose of salts, or else The Tiger on his tail wuill catch him, I'd go for the Tiger to Mongoose that Cobra !
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    great points

    I think Hearns can take the early rounds fighting with Griffiths kinda style of in and out boxing he implemented in the Tiger fights.

    But Tigers pressure does affect Tiger who sucks up the punishment and stops him in the middle rounds