Dick Tiger's Place In A Top 100 List? Were Should It Be?

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  1. Flea Man

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    Probably between 50-70. I don't have a locked down this, rather more like hypothetical 'brackets'.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

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    The idea of a tourny of that lot has me near tears of ecstasy. ****, how do you even seed that (as fluid as some of those spots are...not locks, as you said)?
     
  3. McGrain

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    Remove Tiger and Flowers and rank the first four versus the second four. Anyone could win it, literally. If I were betting I'd put my money on Sugar, but no way would I be betting.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

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    So if properly picking up what you're putting down:

    01 - Harry Greb vs 08 - Mickey Walker
    02 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs. 07 - Charley Burley
    03 - Carlos Monzon vs. 06 - Bernard Hopkins
    04 - Marvin Hagler vs. 05 - Holman Williams

    with Tiger vs. Flowers for the injury-alternate spot?

    Boing.
     
  5. McGrain

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    :lol:

    f u
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    Semi-finals:

    Greb vs. Williams
    Robinson vs. Monzon

    Flowers on the bench.

    :D
     
  7. McGrain

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    In all honesty, I was going to say that I don't want to play that game any more, but now i''m seeing them...

    I've always felt that Robinsn would get around the corner on Monzon enough to dig out some rounds. He had the stamina to fight that mobile fight, unquestionably, and spite of Monzon's unnering accuracy and superior reach I think Robinson flashes enough combinations and is clever footwork to keep it where he wants it without getting broken. IMO Monzon has to break him to win. The championship rounds would probably be the best ever boxed. I got no problem accepting a Monzon win here but my pick is Robinson WPTS, possibly split, certainly close.


    Greb-Williams is an easier pick. Williams would get crowded and doesn't hit anything like hard enough to keep Greb off him. It would be hard watching Williams fight for the bell and there's a chance he would get broken. Greb TKO 15.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Incidently, with Williams out, that's Flowers chance of being called upon drastically reduced, his hands were hellish.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    also throw in the fact he was Worl LightHeavyweigth champ with afew defences

    really i think hes top 7 IMO.

    I just seen your list and its a good one but could you explain some of the guys over Tiger

    Holman Williams
    Bernard Hopkins
    Charley Burley
    Tiger Flowers
    Mickey Walker

    think Hopkins and Flowers are weak links there IMO the rest i oculd rate ahead of Tiger
     
  10. McGrain

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    It's just what you like really, isn't it?

    Flowers twice beat my #1. Yes, they were really close fights, but why wouldn't they be? Greb was possibly the best fighter to lace em up. I especially like the second fight between them for which Greb seemed re-focused and ready to rumble. Flowers-Walker is one of the few unfilmed judges decisions that I lean towards tossing out (i read somewhere that it was one of the fights that resulted in judges scoring a fight in title matches) meaning Flowers arguably went 3-0 versus Walker and Greb in 1926. The rest of his resume is only excellent, but they include guys like Lou Bogash and Johnny Wilson. He's a contender alright. Imagine someone with a solid resume like Wlad Klitschko had also beaten Ali twice and where that would land him in the heavyweight ranking.

    As for Hopkins, unbeaten at MW between 1993 and 2005, one of the divisions most dominant champions and one of it's most skilled in my opinion.
     
  11. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. People forget Tiger also went up and won the LHW crown while weighing just 167lb and won it from a Hall Of Famer in Jose Torres. and made 2 defences.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

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    not believing that for a nanotick.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    fair enough i better do some research on Flowers

    would you say Hopkins longevity and Tigers inconsitancy cancel out each others resumes or would you say one has better than the others.
     
  14. McGrain

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    Very generally, I like consistancy better, but I guess it's who a fighter beat and what he had that's more important. Hard to be sure, I guess you just have to go case by case.
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    fair enough i think Tiger has the better wins but Hopkisn was more dominant and consistant so it is a hard one, out of interest who do you think has the better resume?