Did Abel Sanchez really say with a straight face getting paid less $10 million was insulting?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    This got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever seen in the boxing world. A boxing trainer saying he's insulted because his fighter wanted to pay him $2 million instead of $10 million to train him.

    ****ing hell, it's not enough to train a dude for multi millions you want 8 figures to train a fighter? Who is the man getting punched in the head? It's not Abel.

    Trainers make more money than most fighters. They usually get a cut of 10 percent, but a fighter only makes money off his own bouts. A trainer could train more than 10 fighters and get paid more than the average fighter.

    **** Sanchez. Greedy ****.

    Old news, but I really analyzed it today and damn what a douche.
     
  2. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    He turned out a bad one imo, loves himself..But to be insulted with that offer lol, it made it very easy for GGG to wave him good bye..Also, GGG regressed under his tutelage
     
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  3. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ggg probably had a Jordan sweatshop, Abel wanted a piece of the pie.
     
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  4. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Abel Sanchez rubs me up the wrong way, at times. Sometimes he comes across as a decent guy and then other times he gives off the impression of a two-faced conman.
     
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  5. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Cute as a fox, as the saying goes
     
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  6. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I like how everyone turned on Abel because Comrade Gennady dumped him after using his ethnicity to push ticket sells to a community he has zero in common with. His entire "Mexican Style" run was boosted by Abel playing the side kick, so he was just as entitled to a good pay as he was. It's up to the fighter to negotiate pay with a trainer if he thinks he is worth it. Abel Sanchez knows what the deal is.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    People turned on Sanchez because he wanted $10 million to train a fighter who already knew how to fight long before Sanchez started training him.

    It's not like it was with Pacquiao and Roach or Hearns and Steward. Where they transformed them from nobodies into great fighters and gave them food.
     
  8. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Was it his usual cut? The 10 million dollars he wanted? Was GGG gonna make 100 million or something? Did I miss this?
     
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  9. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usual fee is 10%

    That was their agreement

    GGG wanted to make it 2%
     
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  10. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    That aint business bro, wake up
    So pay him 10 mil for what you said here ? ffs
    Its up to the trainer to negotiate what he thinks hes worth
     
  11. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Most fighters walk from a trainer when they hit massive money, or it happens at that stage a lot..Usually with trainers that are really far up their own arses..Groves and Haye left Booth because of it, it happens, but to still expect 10% of nearly a 100,000,000 pot is really stupid
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    $10 for 6 more fights worth $100. . $2 million was a low blow offer.

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  13. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Everyone piling on Sanchez for this but I think he had a point.

    A trainer takes a percentage of a fighter's income. In return he devotes his time and expertise. At the beginning he's likely not making much, if anything. He invests his time, the boxer invests his effort and together, if they're good and lucky they may make it to the big league.

    At that point, is it so wrong for the trainer to share in the success just as he shared the risk/outlay when things weren't going well? Maybe not at the same percentage, that can be up for negotiation, but everyone condemning Sanchez should at least acknowledge that they'd made an agreement together and GGG decided to drop it when it suited him.

    I don't have any problem with the principle that as the purses increase that others who have helped get the boxer to that position should share in the proceeds and that those shares shouldn't neccesarily be capped at an arbritrary limit.

    All those people that say 'ah but it's business though' as if that excuses any and every action, have you actually ever done business? Believe it or not there's some honourable people out there that don't look for each and every avenue to shaft each other. Of course there's plenty of shysters too, but that doesn't mean you have to be one and sometimes it's very nice when you see one of them get what's coming to them.
     
  14. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sanchez, like most coaches, is parasitic. They use the talent of the boxer to make money, no? Only when they have personally built the fighter from a very young age can you argue they've had significant impact and even then it's ambiguous. In GGG's case, he came pre-made, turned pro after huge amateur experience. Any trainer out there would have had the same success with that Golovkin. Possibly more.

    Trainers like to cry when fighters leave but as people point out, they train multiple fighters and can draw money from a large pool, have their own gyms etc. They can also train a lot longer than one can fight so ultimately they will do better than the average fighter who comes to them.

    The 'Mexican Style' was pushed by Sanchez and Loeffler because THEY would make money off of increased interest in Golovkin. Do people really think Golovkin came up with this marketing BS when he could barely make a coherent English sentence? Golovkin doesn't even naturally fight like that.

    Sanchez only has himself to blame here because it's obvious he crossed the line after the second Canelo fight and sided with his fellow Mexican. He was barely containing his joy at Canelo winning after the fight, when usually the trainer would be visibly upset at a controversial loss to his unbeaten fighter. The trust was gone. The melting pot had failed, just as it had with Kovalev and Snake Jackson. I would guess the Canelo II post fight had a lot to do with Golovkin's refusal to give Sanchez another fortune and the eventual breakdown of the partnership. It's hard to imagine Gennady and his brother not seething behind closed doors at Sanchez's behaviour that night.
     
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  15. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bye bye Sanchez. Don't let that door hit u on the way out .