Did Abel Sanchez really say with a straight face getting paid less $10 million was insulting?

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  1. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    All true
    Correct, he moved away from his Boxing and more of a puncher
    Yeah, it was a **** u to Golovkin imo...Finished...
    A trainer imo that can or could command bigger splits is Brendan Ingle, they all had the grass roots Ingle style, a man that had your back till the death unless you were a treacherous horrible little man from the Yemen !
    Morvidus saying it how it is
     
  2. Somali Sanil

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    Also, if you strayed away with the Ingle style, you were usually ****ed !
     
  3. Eggman

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    10% is fair.

    When ggg was fighting the like of wade, geale, Macklin etc Sanchez was happy taking 10% of probably relatively low purses.

    when you hit the 100 million jackpot you think it would be a Jerry McGuire moment for the fighter and trainer, all the lowballs, early mornings, sacrifice, arguements, struggles etc.

    I would be proud to be able to hand over 10%, it would be emotional if you were a true good hearted person.

    ohwell.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's only right for the trainer to still expect 10 percent of he put in the sweat equity.

    Golovkin was already a finished product when he got to Abel. It's not like Hearns and Steward who turned Hearns from a weakling to a monster.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    10 percent of a massive purse is only fair if the trainer built a fighter from the ground up. Not when you have Golovkin who was a decorated amatuer and almost totally primed out as soon as he met Sanchez.
     
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  6. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    well you maybe have a different thought pattern. It wasn’t like they were together for two fights. Wasn’t it like 8/9 years? I’m not sure.

    anyways after a working relationship, where Sanchez is maybe getting 10% of a milllion purse twice a year, going through average contender after average contender, to drop him after he hits the jackpot leaves a poor taste.

    it should have been a joint celebration. ‘Wev done it! Wev hit the jackpot! I told you all those lowball paydays would be worth it’

    But that’s my thinking, maybe others would rather having $98 million dollars and going with someone else. Or having $90 million and treating someone with a bit of respect.

    but that’s just me.
     
  7. divac

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    Sanchez worked with Golovkin for 10 years, that's before he became champ.
    Anybody here doesn't believe Sanchez wasn't a part of honing Golovkin's destroyer style???

    As Sanchez and other trainers have stated, the early years with fighters in most cases the trainer doesn't make much money if any.
    There are fighters that trainers work with that aren't charged any money for lack of that fighter not having a real income.
    In these situations the trainer works with the fighter in hopes to escalate that fighter to the point where he starts to make money.

    The point is that the trainer invests his time in the early going and struggles just to stay afloat.

    Its not like Sanchez joined and started training a ready made champion and is demanding 10% I'd say Sanchez worked long enough with Golovkin and was a real part in getting him to where he is today, so yes he deserves
    his original agreed upon cut of 10%.

    Sanchez did not hop aboard the bandwagon in this situation.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    So if I trained him would I be entitled to $10 million dollars? No I wouldn't feel entitled to that much money to train a guy who doesn't even need me.
     
  9. tinman

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    By his 4th or 5th pro fight Golovkin was already primed out and ready to challenge for a title. Sanchez didn't turn him into an elite fighter, he already was.
     
  10. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    you would be entitled to 10% as it was through the hard times.

    it’s called loyalty
     
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  11. navigator

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    I said Abel Sanchez moved like a slimeball in his media dealings for years. It was hard to tell if he was Golovkin's trainer or his propaganda minister/agent/life partner.

    Some people said I was a hater.

    One day, those same people started saying what I'd been saying about him all along.

    I can't for the life of me think what might have caused the sudden sea change in opinion.



    Ahem, with that said, Sanchez reportedly worked for Golovkin for free for several fights. That's a generous and kind thing to do, even if he did feel that he was making an investment.

    From what I understand, he was contracted to 10%. 10% is the industry standard. If Golovkin really was offering him less than 10%, never mind 1/5 of his usual take, I can't blame him for putting his foot down on principle

    So maybe my opinion of Sanchez goes up a little. Funny times.
     
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  12. MetalLicker

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    So many people who DKSAB. 10% is fair? You're out of your minds.

    In almost every instance where a fighter becomes famous and earn a lot of money, they re-negotiate with their trainer to a flat fee instead of a percentage. Do you think Roger Mayweather got $18 million for training Mayweather for the Pacquiao fight? Do you think Freddie Roach got $12 million for training Pacquiao against Mayweather? Hell no.

    This isn't new. It's been happening for decades. Holyfield made the same move against Stewart and this is Emanuel Steward, not a one hit wonder like Sanchez.

    https://vault.si.com/vault/1997/09/...reated-a-mecca-for-fighters-in-need-of-repair
     
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  13. MetalLicker

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    10% is the standard when the fighter is up and coming. Fighters re-negotiate when they hit the big time. This is standard practice.

    Abel is a greedy *******. Nobody wants to work with him. That's why he's no longer relevant as a trainer once GGG left him.
     
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  14. Eggman

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    roach got 2 million for the algieri fight anyways.....
     
  15. MetalLicker

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    Pac is the exception, not the rule. He is the most generous guy in boxing by a far margin. And let's be honest, while he is an amazing fighter, Pac is not very good with money, that's why he keep such a large group of hanger-ons.