Did Ahmed Elomar KO Will Tomlinson In Sparring?

360,000 Muslims in Australia in 2009 apparently , so Panic over aye Johnny ? Hamed will be flat out ****ing for two hundred years yet even to umm break even down under . Btw 2.7 percent of the Uk are Muslim .

 

I'm not going to bother getting into a theological debate on a public forum but I can't sit back & say nothing about some of the racial bigotry being expressed by many of you.
I have always got on very well with Ahmed, he has treated me & my family with the utmost respect at all times. I don't know Will too well but he has also been good to me so I don't have any personal agenda either way.
They are 2 young Boxers who are both out to prove who is the better man in their division, both have challenged each other to fight in the ring & for whatever reason the fight is yet to materialise?
When they saw each other at the fight words were exchanged & both are at fault to a certain degree for what happened. I personally think it's stupid for Professional Boxers to fight each other without getting paid but very disappointed in both of them for doing it at a Boxing Event & tarnishing the sports name.
I am even more disgusted by those of you who show your ignorance & lack of knowledge of the Islamic faith. I am a Christian & a senior member of my Church Council & have grown up in Boxing where I have been lucky enough to meet some great people.
I love the Hussein Brothers, Khoder Nasser & Nader Hamden like brothers, they have been there for me me in my times of need & been sincerly happy for me when things have gone well for me.
There are good & bad in all races & religions, I currently share a gym at Lakemba with the Hussein brothers, the premises are next to the Mosque & owned by the Islamic Council but the Mufti & General Manager have gone out of their way to make it a COMMUNITY CENTRE & not just for Muslims.
Many of the parents of the Lebanese kids I train have come from a war torn country & love Australia for the opportunities they have been given by our Country. They are Proud Australians who are offended by the minority of radicals who give Islam a bad name.
Christianity & Islam have many similarities, both Jesus & Mohammed preached love & respect to everyone, their message was that actions speak louder than words, you can pray as many times as you like but it means nothing if you are not a good person.
Unless you know the guys involved personally don't go overboard with your critisism, as I said, I don't condone their actions but there is no need to attack a mans character unless you are prepared to say it to his face!
Ty, what you said about Billy Hussein is disgraceful, you wonder why people treat you with distain, take a good look in the mirror son. You have achieved nothing in this sport except the condemnation of the people in it due to you running people down while talking yourself up. You are a nothing & you will always be a nothing. Even if you 1 day grew the balls to step into the ring & fight someone who could fight back you have shown what a weak grub you are. You talk about keyboard warriors & try to bully people with your big talk, from now on keep your mouth shut unless you are prepared to walk the walk?
You have talked BS about some people who are more than just good friends to me, they are like family, Haris, Billy & Greeny have done nothing to you yet you try to big note yourself by running them down.
Any BS you decide to write back to justify yourself is just that, BS, learn to be a man & say something to another mans face, stop being a coward you grub.
Birchy

 

Faith is to man what sand is to an ostrich.....

 

It has been said that Elomar king hit Will and knocked him out.
How is Tomlinson to share the blame for this.....usually this is called assualt.
It's great you can keep an open mind for both an alleged perpetrator and the victim........so Tomlinson deserved what he got?

 

The fact is he king hit him at Acer Arena. Will was not looking and had to spend the night in hospital.

Any problem in Oz boxing has involved Hussein and his Lebonese crew- another fact!

**** them all off.

 

Finally someone sensible and respectful. Your'e good people Birchy. If you are ever anywhere near Manly, please feel free to drop in for a feed and relax.

 

I have met Will Tomlinson on many occasions personally & he is honestly 1 of the nicest boxers i have come across in this country. Took time to have a chat on a variety of boxing subjects & has always come across very humble & quietly spoken.
These times include the the weigh in for 1 of his fights, the evening of 1 fight of his & inside another boxing trainers dressing room mingling with some of his sparring partners who had just fought & won.


I have been in the same room as Elomar many times also including weigh ins & well he didnt come across as the easiest guy to confront for a chat as he always had 3-6 lebs hanging off him all decked out in their gangster gear. Never was really interested in approaching him as his lebs hanging around him swore like **** & came across like real thugs unfortunately.
Hope i was wrong with my impressions.
Also to be fair after seeing Elomar & his crews performances vs William Kickett & vs Matt Powell on FOX definitely contributed to me not approaching his group of Lebs.

 

I saw what you said there ,,,,

 

My expierence with Elomar is much the same, I fought on a Am card with him and Billy dib a long time ago and when the descision didnt go Triggers way he flipped out and went psycho at all the judges. Then he waited at the front door of the RSL with some mates for the bloke he fought to leave saying he was goning to stab him in the car park. Long story short, the other fella had to be escorted out by security while Elomar was jumping around making a fool of himself, his team and his trainers.

 

My impressions, both live & on TV, I am confounded by Ahmed's behaviour.
He has a mob mentality. The lowest opinion of himself of any fighter I've ever seen, & surrounds himself with like minded people.

The bloke has good skills & can fight. He just doesn't understand boxing. That it's violence without malice.
He needs his community to convince him to take the anger out of his trade.

I had the unpleasant experience of his mob mentality with an episode with a doorman who was just doing his job.
It would have been humerous if they could see what they were doing & it's effect.
The doorman was a typical Samoan. Completely unflustered, which was annoying the **** out of the mob.
Fortunately, just when it looked like exploding, Billy Hussein stepped in a sorted it out.

As for criticisms of Billy . Some people need to take the blinkers off.
My experience with Billy has been that he is respectful & inoffensive.
Both live & on TV, he is always the mediator, & the first to come to a boxers aid whether it's his own boy of the other corners.
He can't be blamed for Ahmeds "grapes". (those fools that invade the ring)

Sure he gives his boys the best opportunites, but it takes two to tango.

 

I think the overriding evidence is that Elomar character is a grub.

I think we may have got side tracked with the muslim faith a bit, but to king hit a bloke is pretty low.

 

Well said Birchy!

In all my involvement in boxing, I found nothing but respect towards myself from the Muslim community and namely, the brothers Hussein - Billy, Nedal, Hussein and Mez. Nader was always very friendly with a hello and a chat. The Dib family in particular were always very good to me and very welcoming and continue to be to this day. I genuinally class them all as friends and would like to think the feel the same.

My comments below have nothing to do with either the Muslim or Christian faiths. To a large degree, I'm not interested in religion.

My thoughts below pertain to comments made regarding individuals and personally, I think some of the material written on here about Billy H. in particular is disgraceful.

Ahmed Elomar has done what his done, (I certainly am not condoning and if it's like the 'talk' is and how it's gone down, well it's actually pretty weak) I assume then he will have to answer to it at some point. However to say/infer that Billy H. would defend what happened would be just plain wrong. I know he would be disappointed in this very situation and would not condone it one bit.

We all have differing opinions on the Paul Briggs scenario and Billy's involvement with it. As a personal friend of Billy H, I gave him mine and he respected it, however I can understand his committment to Paul and trying to be there as a friend as much as anything. It certainly went 'tits up' and it's a situation that I'm sure both will regret for their days, however that's for them to deal with, no one else.

When Willie Kickett was laid out cold by the KO some years back, who jumped in over the top of Willie to shield him first - Billy H. and Billy Dib. Who ran and held Mundine the other night, long before Mundine's own team even bothered to enter the ring - Billy H. again. Billy H. didn't even go to his own fighter first, he ran to Choc and ensured he wasn't going to fall again and was safe.

Billy H. may have made some bad choices in the past and hindsight's a beautiful thing, however a lot of you on here shouldn't throw stones in glass houses as I'm sure you have all had a ****-up once or twice in your life, but do not under any circumstances come on here with the inference that he would be accepting of this incident.

TC Boxa, you are only playing out your own vendetta against Billy and that's for you to worry about, but you should stick to facts at hand, not baseless insinuation or opinion.

 

As long as we live in a free society Birchy i am entitled to my opnion and that opnion being that Billy H and his team are grubs, just take a look at their track record, riots at Fights, fixed fights, etc the list goes on. Just because your mates with them doesnt mean what they are doing is right. Nothing you say can justify these peoples actions and makes you look like the bias pig dckhead you truly are David. Why is it David that ever time this sht happens Billy H and his team are involved?

If you did not know these people David you would condem them, when your so bias you shouldnt post because you leave yourself open for rebutals, in this case you dont have a leg to stand on as these peoples actions speak for themselfs.

And if im a nothing then a nothing did pretty well against a something in you id say, you had trouble with a novice is what your claiming David? , ill leave it at that and end with some nice footage..

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