Did Ali have Parkinson`s during his third fight with Frazier?

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    You know a wise elderly lady once told me that money is the root of all evil. Although it is necessary, it is true. In the case of Muhammad Ali, it was so true. Greed caused a tragic ending to a great career, especially the vultures, his Yes Men around him, because Muhammad Ali was generous to a fault.
     
  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No medical expert but I find it extremely doubtful that Muhammad had Parkinsons as early as 1975. Although his foootspeed had slowed down a tad from the previous year,his handspeed was still blazingly fast in Manila. His voice was still clear as a bell too. The earliest that I noticed something wrong was in 1979. I thought that Ali had a cold but I soon realised that it was something more than that. He DEFINITELY was ill in his last two fights.
     
  3. clinikill

    clinikill Active Member Full Member

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    I believe Ali had Parkinson's SYNDROME, which can result from repeated brain damage.
     
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  4. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, from birth. It's not detected until later in life.
     
  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Shavers fight put Ali over the hill, that's why he lost to a cherry picked Leon Spinks. His speech after the Shavers fight became hard to watch, before the Holmes fight it was obvious he had pugilistic dementia.
     
  6. Richard M Murrieta

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    So very true, he spoke as if he had suffered a stroke, but it was too many thunderous blows to the head, Rope A Dope. And when Muhammad Ali began to move on his toes, the Shaver's right hand would stop him in his tracks. To his credit, he did take those right hands without hitting the canvas.
     
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  7. Bokaj

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    No, I don't think the difference was very big at all. His handspeed was still top notch in Manila. The difference after Manila was very clear on the other hand. It was hardly more than average after.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    His hand speed was awful in Manilla.
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So Dr. Ant, is it your considered opinion that when a fighter starts to lose hand speed, as you believe to be the case here, that that fighter has Parkinson’s?

    When are you accepting your Nobel Prize for this breakthrough discovery?

    If your thesis is that Muhammad Ali of Frazier III is not 100 percent prime in all areas, I concede you point. And every other fighter at this point in their career are also losing an edge in some category or other. Do they all have a major medical condition? Or is that what age does?
     
  10. Bokaj

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    Well, let's just say that you and I disagree quite a bit on that fight. :) I don't think, as you, that it was a battle of no skill and my eyes clearly tell me his hands still were fast. Let's just leave it at that.
     
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