did any other fighter besides ezzard charles....

Talking of great fighters who were great in different divisions, McLarnin beat Ambers, Ross and Villa, though the bouts MAY not have taken place in the guy's respective weight class in which he was considered great, might have though?

But hey, even though i credit Burley with beibg a greater middle than he was a welter, he would have been at his h2h best at 147.

 

Are we taking into account how old and past it the defeated great fighter was? If not, then how about Roy Jones?

Bernard Hopkins @ 160
James Toney @ 168
Felix Trinidad @ a catchweight of 170

Or does the defeated great have to be at (or near) his best, and his ideal division?

 

Not quite on the level of charles's but robinson with

agnott
gavilan
Fullmer/ La motta

Is not bad, no where nears charles though

 

The only reason its not near Charles though, is that Angott was a top, you could argue not great or great lightweight of the day. But Burley's best weight was 147 imo, however he was still a great MW for his resume there. Fulmer and Lamotta are great wins imo. Louis was still succesful, but past his own best. Its closer than what you made out imo.

 

Sugar Ray Leonard.


He beat a great lightweight in Duran, a great welterweight in Hearns, and a great middleweight in Hagler. An incredible achievement, as is Charles'.

 

I personally think Burley's best weight was welter, in those days anyway, but he was a great MW.

 

Mickey Walker:

Beat Lew Tendler at welterweight

Beat Tiger Flowers at middleweight

Beat Mike McTigure at light heavyweight

Drew against Jack Sharkey at heavyweight

 

Sam Langford:

Beat Joe Gans at lightweight

Drew against Joe Walcott at welterweight (probably won)

Drew against Stanley Ketchel at middleweight (arguably won)

Beat Jack O'Brien at light heavyweight

Beat Harry Wills at heavyweight

 

Fukinhell, if he coulda been given 1 more round over Sharkey he'd have this thread wrapped up!

Just outta curiosity, what would you say Tendler's best weight would have been, im not sure wether 135 or 147,

 

Walker-Flowers was a controversial decision. Id have to put an asteriks by that one.

 

Can't believe it took that long for someone to mention Langford. He's Sam ****ing Langford for ****s sake!

 

Fitz.

Jack Dempsey at middleweight. The Nonpareil of couse.
Jim Corbett at heavyweight.
George Gardner at lightheavyweight.

 

Do you really think that´s up there with wins like Charles, Walker and Langford scored? Those guys beat their opponents when they were near their best. In none of Jones fights his opponents were near their best. Looks good on paper but not in reality.