Did anyone accept VITALI as the legitimate heavyweight champion when he beat Sanders?

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  1. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People seem very mixed on the subject, but Ring magazine did award him their belt. I for one think he deserved it.. his only real logical competition at the time was Johnson and Sanders, and he beat them both. And Sanders vacated the WBO title in order to fight Vitali, so I suppose that can be looked at as a unification of the sorts.

    What are your thoughts?

    And why are people often so mixed on this subject?
     
  2. JoeyP

    JoeyP Member Full Member

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    No--I didn't because they leap frogged Byrd at the time. Byrd was on a huge winning streak and was 1-2 for quite awhile. As I recall, he was suppose to get a shot at Lewis but Lewis dropped the title so Byrd fought Holyfield for it. Byrd had a win over VK so how he could be leap frogged at that time was a joke. The Ring jumped the gun on this one.


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  3. mike464

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  4. 1-Ton

    1-Ton Walking in the Light Full Member

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    Despite the loss, Vitali won the respect of many in the Lewis fight. Byrd was overlooked, perhaps unfairly, due to his relative inactivity at the time. I personally found it a bit confusing given that Byrd had beaten Vitali.
     
  5. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I didn't think of that.. Byrd does have a W over Vitali. Althought Byrd wasn't necessarily a major threat to Vitali ( unless he injured himself during the fight again ), I guess it's debatable that he should have to get threw Byrd first. But on the other hand.... Sanders was number 2 heavyweight in the world at the time, right? Ring magazine awards their belts based on the outcome of a fight between the number 1 and 2 ranked fighters of a division.
     
  6. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you know nothing
     
  7. 1-Ton

    1-Ton Walking in the Light Full Member

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    I agree with you, and that may have something to do with Vitali being the Ring champion. But, despite the circumstance, still a "W" for Byrd.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I am a Vitali fan but I didn't think he was the true champion. He was in my opinion the best fighter at heavyweight and I beleive had the ability to be the unified champion but potential doesn't mean a thing. A fighter doesn't become a champion by having the potential but by acheiveing his potential.
     
  9. JoeyP

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    Ok--Let's get ouf facts straight---Byrd won that fight and got the W--thats all that counts. VK QUIT. I don't care what happened the 10 rounds before that. VK quit. Byrd won. End of story.

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  10. JoeyP

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    If I recall---VK was 1, Byrd was 2, and Sanders was 3. VK leapfrogged Byrd in the rankings based on a loss to Lewis. Byrd had been 1 for awhile and was on quite a win streak at that time.
     
  11. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How's that possible? Wladimir was pretty much universally recognized as the " heir to the throne " and then he get's shockingly defeated by Sanders. I don't see how Byrd could've been number 2.
     
  12. teetop

    teetop Active Member Full Member

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    Of course. Who else at that time would be considered champ besides the winner of that clash?
     
  13. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He wasn't Lineal. But I recognize him as a former Champ just like Marvin Hart is also a former Champ. Well, more than a Champ, Klit was an important Claimant, like Maher, Hart, Burns...
     
  14. JoeyP

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    I'll have to check my old Ring mags from that time--but I'm pretty sure I'm right. I'll get back to you this evening.


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  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes. He already gave the legitimate champion(Lewis) HELL and was running after him for almost a year to get a rematch and blew away Kirk Johnson when he had to. So yes, he DID become the legitimate champion.