Did anyone else have it 4-1 Edgar?

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    1st - 10-8 Maynard
    2nd - 10-9 Edgar
    3rd - 10-10
    4th - 10-9 Edgar
    5th - 10-9 Edgar

    Total - 48-47 Edgar

    A draw is not a bad decision at all. You could even have the 5th even, maybe even to Maynard. It was a close fight. It needs to be settled with another fight immediately.

    Edgar showed incredible heart and his second round was technical brillance all considered. He has some technical adjustments to make and I think he could improve even more. Maynard could also make some technical adjustments so I think the third fight will be another 50-50 affair but if one makes adjustments and the other doesn't then it could be much wider.
     
  2. bored

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    My thoughts were it's mainly down to how you score the third round. Certainly not going to argue with the judges on this one, I had it a pretty clear draw to be honest.
     
  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I had it 10-8 Maynard round 1,
    rd 2 Edgar
    rd 3 too damn close
    rd 4 Edgar
    rd 5 Edgar.

    Best Maynard could have gotten was a draw.
     
  4. WATERBOY

    WATERBOY I Worship Steven Tucker Full Member

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    I scored it the same as achillesthegreat

    10-8 Maynard
    10-9 Edgar
    10-10
    10-9 Edgar
    10-9 Edgar

    Frankie has made me a big fan after coming back like he did an I gotta say this was 1 of the best fights Iv ever seen loved it!
     
  5. PrizeFight!

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    Me. I had Maynard taking round 1 10-7 and the rest were Frankie 10-9. The Answer gutted it out. Still can't believe how badly Maynard put it on him round one.
     
  6. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    Finally got round to scoring the fight and like most people, I had it a draw. Here's my round by round, mostly pointing out the obvious for 1, 2 and 4. I'll give the rbr of 3 & 5 together, because there's a number of comparisons I believe you can draw, and they're both such close rounds.

    1 - I scored it 10-8 Maynard. Some people have it 10-7 and even 10-6, which in my opinion is incorrect. I can see why someone would lean towards it being a 10-7, considering Frankie got rocked, survived, then rocked again. However, 10-8 rounds are reserved for a dominant round, 10-7 rounds are reserved for complete shalackings and to be honest, a 10-7 round should be stopped anyway. I believe 10-8 is a fair score and don't believe in anything below that, to be honest. Plus, Frankie was fighting back in the last minute and a half and he landed a few shots, so there's a lot of portraits being painted that Frankie got beat from pillar to post and it's really not the case. No doubt, he was very close to being stopped, but he did come back at the end of the round albeit groggily and I don't consider it a grand enough beating for 10-7 despite Maynard almost finishing him twice, I just can't give it to him 10-7.

    2 - Frankie Edgar's round 10-9, easily. I've read one or two posts saying it could be a 10-8 Edgar round which is quite frankly, laughable. Edgar got better in the round the closer it came to finishing, and it was quite a performance. Maynard has a granite jaw, even if Edgar isn't the most powerful hitter, he did very well to not land himself in a load of trouble. I believe Frankie would've been able to finish Maynard a lot easier than Maynard could finish him, especially with his stamina having dropped after unleashing barrages in the first. Oh, and did you see that takedown? Wow.

    4 - Edgar's round again, another wonderful display complete with some brilliant takedowns and that guillotine looked close. Nothing much to say about this round.

    3 & 5 - Now these are the focal points of the fight, clearly, but they really shouldn't be. Admittedly, I can see the case for Maynard winning both rounds, but I can see the same case for Edgar winning them too. The thing was, the rounds were more null than anything. In Maynard's case, I couldn't give him them because he didn't do enough to really take it, and likewise Edgar but he needed the points and someone has to get the rounds. I gave the third round to Maynard and the fifth to Edgar, but obviously they were both very close. The thing was, the third started off Edgar slowly being taken by Maynard, and the fifth was the opposite, I feel. Edgar was slow to start in the fifth and wasn't landing, but he started setting up that jab and managed to keep Maynard off him, it was a bit of a rocky start as I recall him getting hit once or twice but I think he boxed well enough to take it. Both very close.

    The correct decision in my eyes was definitely a draw, and the judges got it right. However, as it occurs to me, I really think fights are in desperate need of pride's judging rules. If they fought in pride, I think that would be a draw too, but coming into the second round, Edgar had to win every round to score a win. If he lost one by 10-9 he'd draw at the least. Now to me, that's just not right. And people are used to very dominant or comeback turnarounds in UFC title bouts. It's very rare that you get a generally competitive fight, and the judges really do need to be sorted out. There's something about it that just doesn't give the fights justice. That being said, I do agree with a draw but I think Frankie was the better man that night. I look forward to the rematch, and suspect a similar rematch as Rua/Machida for some reason. Although I hope not, Edgar's not about to stop Maynard in the first in the rematch. But who knows, stranger things have happened.

    Another interesting point is that Maynard was a lot more tired from round 2 onwards, and while Edgar got back to his boxing and fought wonderfully, was he at 100% fighting ability or like Maynard, was he also suffering from the effects of the first round? I believe the best thing that could've happened for Frankie is that he got his ass handed to him in the first, because he really picked up his game and had that motivation he had in the Penn fights, but saying that, would he have had it anyway and would he fought the same? Who knows.

    Bring on the rematch.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I only started watching about halfway through the 2nd round but Maynard appeared to be in control pretty much the whole way from there on.
     
  8. Wige247

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    Surprised everyone gave the 3rd to Maynard. He got a takedown and 2/3 good punches in, and he didn't do enough damage on top to cancel out what Edgar did on his feet.
     
  9. sugarngold

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    I had it 4-1 for Edgar.
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    People got way too caught up in Edgar surviving and started giving him the benefit of the doubt in every round.
     
  11. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    I'll rewatch it eventually but at the time I had been drinking at a sports bar. To me, Frankie's surviving the first round put Gray in a position where he had to take the rounds from Frankie. I think i wound up giving the rounds to Frankie due to Maynard not doing enough in my eyes to have him taking the round. 3 was really really close, but Maynard didn't do enough to warrant me scoring it for him.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Right, so what exactly happened in the 1st?
     
  13. Wige247

    Wige247 Active Member Full Member

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    Edgar got battered all over the cage, kd 2 or 3 times but never looked liked he was about to be finished, and was on shaky legs for most of the round.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Then 5-0 Maynard seems far more correct than a draw (let alone 4-1 Edgar).
     
  15. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    ...Are you having a laugh?

    ...Is he having a laugh?