Did anyone else have it 4-1 Edgar?

Always, well always since the unified rules.

The rules state the winner recieves 10 points and the loser 9 or less.

 

atsch
Damn math

 

Jesus Christ, he did everything he could to finish Edgar, he just couldn't be finished.

Maynard beat him senseless and some refs would have stopped it; it's not like Maynard was fighting for a decision.

 

put down the pipe homie.

 

10-10 rounds are a cop out.

Somebody had to do something the tiniest bit better; it is essentially impossible to not be able to find any difference, no matter how small, in a round.

The rules state the winner gets 10 and the loser 9 or less.

 

Yeah thats how I saw it, the fifth was really the only round that was all that close so either a draw or a Maynard win where the two credible results.

 

Judging who did something the tiniest bit better is pretty dam hard though and not much of an achievement.

I didnt expect a 10-10 given that they hardly ever happen in MMA but I think the sport would be better off following K1....

Close round = 10-10
One fighter has the advanatge but doesnt seriously threaten his opponant = 10-9
One fighter very nearly finishes the other - 10-8
One fighter dominates very nearly finishing the other multiple times = 10-7

 

Oh wait, Edgar is the one with the dark hair?

I had the names reversed.

Dark haired dude was winning from halfway through the 2nd round on.

I don't follow UFC very closely and was watching on a silent feed, so didn't really know who was who.

 

The second round was Edgar's most dominant round of the fight. If there was going to be one that he won just by not getting creamed it would have been that one.

I KNEW you'd be on here talking up Maynard and figuring out some what that he got robbed. I haven't checked to see if you mentioned your loose wrestling connection with the guy, but it's probably only a matter of time.

Anyway, I had it a draw with the scoring being just like everyone else who had a draw. Like I said in another thread, if the judges aren't given guidance to what constitutes less than a 10-8 round (if all their told is at a huge ass kicking means 10-8 and nothing else) then no one should be quailing about "it should have been 10-7 or the even more ******ed 10-6. The rule systems need to be changed, but if they were changed to something appropriate then Edgar's takedowns, slam and tight guillotine choke would have at least partially offset the first round.

It was a close fight that needs a rematch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Edgar outboxed Maynard and won a clear decision. Edgar will be more cautious and Maynard will try to conserve more energy and Edgar will outwork him.

 

I never said that Edgar didn't win the 2nd round. If you read my posts I clearly said that Edgar clearly won the 2nd and 4th round. However, I felt that Maynard won the 1st, 3rd, and 5th. Edgar definitely didn't deserve a win, and I don't think he deserved a draw either. The scoring system in MMA has to be changed. A fighter should get much more reward for a dominant round like round 1. 10-8 doesn't cut it.

What the hell is ******ed about a 10-7 or 10-6? You guys act like you have no idea how the 10 pt must system works or something. Hell, it's a 5 round fight. They give 10-6 rounds in 4 round boxing matches.

Edgar will never beat Maynard. It's just a bad matchup for him. Penn would have a much better time against Maynard than he does against Edgar... once again... it's a style thing.

When Maynard is fresh, he wins on the feet and on the ground. He also secures takedowns at will on Edgar. He dominated the first fight with wrestling... he completely dominated Edgar, battered him like we have never seen Edgar battered before in the 1st round... punching himself out in the process and was still able to fight no less than equal the rest of the way with Edgar.

I never mentioned anything about knowing Maynard in this thread... I mentioned that ONCE on here, before Maynard ever even got big. This was back when he was first on the TUF show. After that, it is you guys who bring it up everytime that I post on anything regarding him to try and act like I am so extremely, over the top bias toward him, and we are bromantically involved or something. So, blame yourself for that... because it's exactly what you just did. Same **** that all of you guys pulled back when I said that Maynard would dominate Kenny Florian if they fought... which was well before they actually fought... and you guys jumped all up in my **** about it, acting like I was ******ed for having that theory, that Kenflo would kill him, and that I am just bias because, blah blah blah....

 

It’s not boxing rules because it’s not boxing. What’s so hard about that? There is a definite set of rules for when to take a point in boxing. There is nothing like that in the UFC rules and it’s left up to the judges. You can argue that it’s a stupid way to judge fights (and everyone agrees that it is) but you can’t honestly claim that they actually should have pulled a 10-7 round out of their asses when none has ever been scored that way before.

I fully expected Maynard to win that fight the same way he won the first one, but he didn’t get a single takedown and got taken down a few times by Edgar. I can think of a few reasons for this, namely Edgar has improved and Maynard was tired after the first. However, if you get so tired from one round of throwing punches that you can’t take a guy down for the next twenty minutes and the guy you beat on is fresh as a daisy and takes you down, it doesn’t bode well for the conditioning difference. Like I said, I suspect that in the next fight Maynard will conserve his energy more and, if he’s able to, take Edgar down. Maynard is the only one who knows if his fatigue is why he failed to take him down and why he got taken down by Edgar, so we’ll see in the next fight. To say that Edgar will NEVER beat him seems pretty silly considering how close that fight was.

I don’t follow your posts very carefully and I KNOW that you’ve mentioned it at least three times. Not that I terribly give a ****, it’s just funny. I would have put a million bucks after that fight that you’d be on here talking about how it wasn’t even close. As for the “all you guys pulled this **** before for the Maynard/Florian fight”, I don’t think I posted a word about it. It’s interesting though that this happens to you often enough to be so sensitive about it. I guess everyone has decided to make up a name dropping/bias gag about you and run with it. It’s all a big conspiracy…

 

No point in going over the rest again.


Also, once again... you clearly don't remember well. I actually started a thread about Gray Maynard mentioning that he won a fight, and that he was going to be very good in MMA, or something to that regard. That's IT.

I am not sensitive about it. I couldn't care less what any of you guys ever say about me to be honest. That doesn't mean that I won't take the time to point out that you are wrong when you clearly are. Obviously, my backround with Maynard crosses your mind more than it does mine because I wasn't even thinking, or posting about it. I don't really think it's a big deal that I used to wrestle with the guy in High School, do you? Actually, not too many people even mentioned that I knew Maynard when talking about Kenflo... just a few posters like yourself that harp on that sort of thing. Kind of like you are the only person who has mentioned it after the fight. Giving a little heads up or inside info about some people that you happen to know isn't name dropping... it's a ****in message board where we discuss these guys on a daily basis. Of course if any of us know anyone that we are discussing, we are going to mention it. It isn't my fault that ESB is full of insecure people.


Here, I actually found the lone thread that I started on Gray Maynard. Wow, what a big deal I made of it. Funny thing... look who posted in it and look what your response was.:rofl

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17621

Now THAT is funny.

 

Still laughing about your post in that thread.

 

There is 10-8's in MMA, All of the judges scored the first 10-8