Did Anyone Hear Mayweather Snr's Corner Advice?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Machine, May 4, 2009.


  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Eh... So in other words your memory and imagination are positive already. Works for me. :rofl Hatton got through with some decent shots - shots he wasn't generally expected to land with early, or even at all in some cases. It wasn't bad considering.. Pacquiao didn't like some of those shots. Hatton liked his even less.
     
  2. K2ray

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    Absolutely in agreement:good
     
  3. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    we must have watched a different fight coz what i saw was that very early in the fight, hatton was rushing pac and tying him up, then landing his shots to the body and the head, pac wasn't affected. bayless breaks them up bu hatton quickly gets back inside and ties pac again trying to land his punch. bayless again tries to break them up. the third time hatton rushes in, pac landed a three-punch combination inside which landed on hatton's chin, hatton was clearly hurt and he tried his best to clinch. bayless again break them up.

    that was the point hatton momentarily stopped trying to get inside pacman because he tasted manny's power and he realized that pacman could hurt him in the inside. he tried to box outside but then pac still controlled the fight by landing a right hook counter and sent hatton face-first on the canvass. after that first KD, hatton was lost on what he was supposed to do. So it's not really the case of hatton trying to box pac from the outside, because it's really more of what pac did to hatton in the inside and outside which confused hatton
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I'm not sure if this is for me, but you can be guaranteed we watched a different fight. These things can look quite different when you have your eyes peeled on simply one of the fighters, focused on him being successful, and monitoring his every action with specified emphasis.

    I'd say that's pretty standard.
     
  5. Machine

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  6. Machine

    Machine Active Member Full Member

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    Listen, don't get your panties in a bunch we're having a reasonable discussion here about the fight, I'm not attacking you. I like Hatton, he's a good fighter. I don't really understand what you're saying about the positive memory/imagination thing. I've always found your posts to be pretty good, but for some reason on this topic you have lost your ****. The point is, that it is difficult to say much from a stylistic point of view because Hatton spent the entire fight, other than the first 30 seconds, hurt. In spite of being hurt he was still extemely aggressive, even for an animal like him. Perhaps he hesitated for a split second more than usual as you've speculated (although I saw the opposite) but a) I don't think this constitutes a Mayweather instigated style change b) its more likely he was hesitating because he was getting his head busted up. And I think you're the only person, including Hatton himself, that is arguing about how successful Hatton was in that fight. It was a ****ing demolition job, period. Having 73 punches landed on you in two rounds is increadibly onesided.
     
  7. Knives7

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    What I heard before the 2nd round "Keep your hands up! Move your head! Throw some feints! Over power him! Over power him!" He was totally mixing his advice.
     
  8. batang kanto

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    Of course viewers could see different things with their own focus and biases, that's why judging a fight isn't exactly an objective profession. but certain things cannot escape anybody's eye regardless of bias, like when hatton tried to rush pacquiao early in the fight after two succesful attempts but pac caught him and landed on the inside and actually hurt hatton. that should'nt escape you especially because that was the first time someone got hurt in that fight. and hatton was clearly buzzed he clinched pacquaio like there was no tomorrow.

    IMO, and this is my subjective opinion, that instance must have teach hatton that rushing pacquiao in would be a bit dangerous than he originally thought. that made him more cautious so he stayed outside where pac started to pick him apart
     
  9. K2ray

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    :goodOWNED
     
  10. Jbuz

    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    If you're incapable of moving your head, why the **** would you fight a freakishly fast great fighter with dynamite in both hands? Either learn to ****ing defend yourself, or challenge someone who is on your level. :yep

    Hatton is far too reckless coming in, he was always going to get knocked out (as many tried to tell you). But you kept insisting that his relentless pressure would be too much. Pressure is useless if you leave yourself wide open coming in!
     
  11. konaman

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    He opened with negative horse**** about Ricky not following his words from day 1, essentially conceding defeat there and then.
     
  12. THE BLADE

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    I know the Mayweathers are assholes, but SR said gave proper advice.

    Hatton got away with it during his career but against somebody as quick and powerful as Pac, he could not.

    Hatton could not change his bad habits. It is not possible to change sonmething what you have done for the past 20 years in 12 weeks. If anybody is to blame, than his former ttrainers but not Mayw. SR.
     
  13. Powerman55

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    Hatton could have used all the head movement and footwork in the world.

    Pac was just TOO FAST and powerful.

    I personally believe Hatton watched the Carl Froch fight and thought to himself 'I am not a boxer who uses tricks and skill I'm like Carl Froch, a fighter who fights with his heart first and wins thought grit and determination'

    I think after firing his long term friend and trainer he was probably feeling like a fake and reverted to 'who he is'.
     
  14. THE BLADE

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    Hatton keeps his hands too low when he comes in. against the MAyw and PAc you get caught, against lesser opponents he takes or slip m ore punches.

    His former trainers are to blame not Mayw. Trindad Sr did a better job, his son alyways keeps the hands up.
     
  15. Machine

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    Tszyu was quick and powerful.