Did Anyone Hear Mayweather Snr's Corner Advice?

Easy. bud. You made it clear that you needed to see this thing again and then went right back to talking about how you were "certain" and "positive" and stuff like that. I found that funny. Nobody was trying to mock you.

I don't quite follow you, BK. What are you saying?

If you predicted an early knockout credit to you, Jbuz, but I recall alot more people telling me that Pacquaio was going to do a Pernell Whitaker impersonation and never get touched by Hatton. So, no, that's incorrect. I pretty much agree with the rest of what you're saying though in a general sense.

 

I am well aware of his basic flaws, and i am not blaming Mayweather for them, the second coming of jesus couldn't have drastically changed Hatton as a fighter, so an egotistical crackhead had no chance. When things went wrong in the fight instead of giving tactical insights he went into ego damage control saying "you should have listened to me from day one" (which i am sure Hatton did, he certainly wasn't paying him a ton of money to stand around and look good, or be tolerable).

 

The whole reason why Hatton got a new trainer was because it was becoming increasingly clear his style would be ineffectual against higher calibre opponents. Hatton's style was only effective against lower quality opponents, and also Tszyu because Ricky was still very young and Tzyu was at the end.

But blocking punches with your head will only get you so far and after a while it will always catch up to you.

Ricky had to get a new trainer to stand any chance against Pacquiao. If he had put into practice what Mayweather was trying to teach him, then the fight may have lasted a bit longer.

But Ricky just went head on, no defense as per normal and he got KTFO.

You can't blame Mayweather for Hatton's defeat. Ricky fought the same way he always fights, which is why is was sooo easy for Pac. Pac had a game plan and executed it perfectly.

If Ricky had shown a willingness to take on board Mayweather's training, changed his style and lost, then that would be a different matter. But he didn't.

How many punches did Hatton land in the fight? How many did he take, on the head?

Hatton is a great guy, but he lost because Pac is a much, much better boxer than him. End of. It's not Mayweather's fault.

 

well you were saying that his coach trying to reinvent hatton did him more harm than good because instead of trying to do to to pacquaio what he did to tszyu, he boxed him instead. what i'm saying is, hatton tried to fight pac like his old style, the way he went rushing in from the first bell was patented hatton style, no attempt to box whatsoever. its just that pac hurt him in the inside that's why hatton had to concede some space and fight from the outside

 

Couldn't quite make it out but it seemed like he was shouting something like, "**** the plan!, he's pure evil, just run in with your chin out and get the **** over with quick!".

 

:think you could be right there. Maybe Hatton was listening to him after all...

 

Don't you see? We're both right - but that's something that you need to factor. I didn't realize you were being so blanketed and generic about this. He did both, BK. We agree on that. But what we don't agree on is that he fought one style or the other the entire fight. You're trying to make it sound like that's all he did, and that is incorrect. He was doing both, and some ******ed hybrid in between, and I'll tell you why it's more relevant when I talk about it. I considered it a mistake whenever he stopped doing that, and mistakes are the difference between everything and everything in this sport. Hatton got caught everywhere, nowhere was safe, nevermind you reaching with the bit about him being cautious. He was hurt, he wasn't cautious.

 

He did have power but was not as was not as quick as Pac and neither did he have the counter punching ablilities of Pac.

 

maybe that's the problem..he couldn't understand Mayweather Jr. He was rattled and it doesn't help that his own fans crank up the volume to 120 decibels.

 

I agree that Mayweather , went back to being an ******* AFTER the fight. He has no business saying that Hatton should hang them. He is just egocentric like you said.

But DURING the fight, he did offer proper advivce by telling Hatton to keep his chin tucked, hands up and head moving. Hatton did not ANY of those things.

 

"Combos, Slick Rick! Combos!"

"Brrrrrrrapp!"

 

Increasingly clear? Getting worked by Floyd Mayweather Jr and buzzed in the late rounds in a comeback fight you dominated is hardly "increasingly clear." No offense, bud, but I'm already in several conversations on this subject that are a tad deeper than this one. I'm not getting back into 1-2-3 superficial logic at this point.

 

mayweather gave him the right advice by moving his head and feint...he also told hatton to keep his hands up and not overpower pac....

i guess he was so rattled he didnt understand what floyd was saying....like all he can hear is static....

 

At the end of the day, Mayweather Snr was trying to re-invent Hatton. Hatton no matter how much he trained is never going to have the skills of Mayweather Jr.

At his age Hatton should have been strengthening what he already had. Teaching Hatton technical boxing skills is similar to teaching the 'sex pistols' how to play 'dinner jazz'. It's NEVER going to happen.

Mayweather Snr took the money and ran. 1 million...not bad for 12 weeks work.