DID BARRERA make a good account of himself??

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    :huh You had MAB up 5 rounds to 1 at the midway point?:huh
     
  2. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he probably did not score it round for round during the fight. i think he came up with this before he typed it
     
  3. markbrooklyn

    markbrooklyn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    NO.. He did not make a good account of himself at all. He just fought not to get knocked out. He didn't fight to win the fight. It was kinda like watching Roy Jones Jr vs Antonio Tarver III. What a waste of 50 bucks! :(
     
  4. mad_takamura

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    wrong that was 3 rounds (i forgot to type round 4 for pac too.) mab got 2,3,and 5. only.
     
  5. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If were expecting that Pac would destroy MAB, then you could say yes MAB made a good account of himself.

    But if you were expecting MAB to show his mexican warrior spirit, then no he didn't.
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll agree that Pac has gotten better technically.
    Against MAB this time around, Pac rarely was off balance after he punched.

    One thing to take note however, is that with this version of Pac fighting more controlled, comes less power.
    Pac landed some clean shots on MAB, and not once did MAB buckle or seemed hurt.

    The KO punching Pac would often find himself totally out of position after he missed a punch because of the leverage and torque he created to land power.

    You guys love this version who is more controlled????
    You most likely are not going to see any KO's!

    To that I say, bring on the controlled version vs JMM, I'd love for him to try and match technical skills vs the MASTER!!!:deal :yep
     
  7. nighthunter

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    :patsch
     
  8. mad_takamura

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    he was off balance whenever he tried to jab because mab was pulling away and pac was trying hard to get the range and that was on the early rounds until round 6 when pac finally was on range. are you watching closely the fight? :huh
    wow, you might be closing your eyes when pac landed a straight left to mab. that was rnd. 11. are you watching it or completely bias?
    rnd.12 mab was stumbling and off-balance, good thing pac did not follow that up. or elso mab would have been ko. it was a reverse attitude of mab hitting pac dirty in 11. :bart
    and when we like to see him win with ko's you will all say that he is once again 1-dimensional. yeah right. :hi:
     
  9. divac

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    I dont think you understood my post MT. By fighting MAB the controlled way that Pac did, it gave MAB less of a chance to win because MAB wanted to be backpedaling and in counter mode the entire fight......Pac did'nt let him by being controlled and not attacking in abandon mode.
    All I'm saying is that the controlled version of Pac still lands good and hard, but he just does'nt land with the same power that the reckless version of Pac did.
    It's only natural that the more force you create, the more you are likely to fall offbalance if you are to miss.

    The tactics that Pac pulled off vs MAB will be much harder to pull off against JMM because Marquez is a bit quicker than MAB, and he's alot better in manuevering the ring to gain position with his feet.......
    ......adding to that, JMM has by far better stamina than MAB.
    Certainly JMM will not find himself downshifting in the second half of the fight and head into survival mode.

    Against Marquez, Pac will most likely find himself behind on the cards and will be forced to get overly aggressive and try to KO JMM......at this point JMM has a field day countering Pac, but at the same time, it will imo be Pac's best chance to win via the KO!
     
  10. mad_takamura

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    you're right on that one. i'm really having headaches on thinking how pac would try to beat jmm: if the socks myth is no fluke. :nono
    however, i also think that pac would really try to turn that one ina a brawl fest hoping that he could ko jmm, if jmm is succesful in countering pac's controlled style or when pac gets agitated coz he knows he is being lured to jmm's game.
     
  11. divac

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    Exactly MT, who is going to make the other to be forced to fight the way they want them to fight????

    Its not as simple as ABC.....at first glance we can say that a technically better version than the Pac of a few years ago will have a better chance vs Marquez.......
    .....that may or may not be true, it could very easily be that JMM is so superior technically that Pac fighting a more controlled fight will give Pac less of a chance to win.
    Thats why this rematch has to happen!:yep


    Now watch JMM get old overnight and lose to Rocky Juarez in his next fight.... :nut
    :blood God forbid!:blood
     
  12. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    the only way that i can see a good fight for manny is to brawl jmm, stupid as it may sounds. if he tried to box jmm or when he too waited for jmm, jmm will be the first one to make the move and initiate pac because he would unleash flurries on him coz i think he knows jmm would w8 for him to make the first move. :think
     
  13. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    man. if jmm loses to juarez, i'll be blaming you for junxing it. i'm not at all interested in a pac-juarez match which is very likely should jmm slip.
     
  14. mad_takamura

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    that's why i hope jmm loses to juarez..:scaredas:
    no i'm just kidding...:D
     
  15. divac

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    I too think eventually Pac has to bring it and go hard at JMM.
    Marquez is just too experienced, and to this day, unlike Morales and MAB, JMM has'nt shown any lack of stamina.
    I think its safe to say that JMM can still fight 3 minutes of every round, something MAB and Morales just cant do nowdays.