Did Berto knock down Floyd in the 3rd round?

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the 3rd round, Berto landed two hard jabs on Floyd in succession that put Floyd off-balance and then Floyd ducked to avoid the overhand right that followed so hard that he lost his balance and his glove touched the canvas.

    It was ruled a slip in real-time, but Berto clearly landed two hard jabs that put Floyd off balance. Floyd saw the overhand right coming and was able to duck hard and make Berto miss the 3rd punch of the combo wildly, but in the process lost his balance. Didn’t appear like there was a slip, Floyd just lost his balance after eating those two jabs and ducking so hard that he had to use his glove to stay up.

    Lets take this to a poll shall we? Before voting, please re-watch the 3rd round once again and give your honest assessment of if that should be a knockdown.
     
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  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does it even matter at this point?
     
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  3. An_Terrible

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    Did Di*ky Ecklund knok down Sugar Ray Leonard?
     
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  4. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol yah, not like Berto was going to win the fight anyways
     
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  5. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Good thread, kd's bear discussion. From your description sounds like it could have been ruled either way, but I would err on the side of calling it a slip. Punches may have marginally influenced the fall, but it was largely him getting himself off balance. Otherwise, any slip is a kd, because everything in a bout is in response to the other opponent. Unless a punch is a serious driving factor in a fall, I'd tend toward ruling it a slip.

    Hopefully everyone who says Nichols kd'd Wilder would be consistent and call this a kd too, though.
     
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  6. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol no.
     
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  7. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nichols Wilder footage isn't clear, but it does look like a legit KD. This however is certainly not a KD.
     
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  8. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Compared them because the descriptions sound similar. If you watch the Nickols slip, it appeared Wilder got himself off balance by twisting his knee out of position in preparation for a punch. The fall appeared to be from that, more than any punch (which wasn't clear from video whether it connected). That's the description OP largely made about this slip too.
     
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  9. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the problem. It's not possible to tell exactly what causes the KD. But Wilder's rushing retreat directly backwards suggests there was an impact. That doesn't look like a slip to me. But still, it's not possible to tell without a doubt.
     
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  10. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Broner hit air. Mayweather just had too much momentum when ducking and fell forward. Broner didn't touch him though. It was clear on the replay.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I should imagine so.
     
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  12. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Thanks for the reasonable discussion, you may be right. But to me, it looked like he was falling backward because his knee was way out of position when he went to avoid the punch.
     
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  13. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    But you posted this?:patsch
     
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  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Mayweather and Broner haven't fought yet (I have a sneaking hunch that Floyd will return for #50 to punish the poseur to get revenge for Theophane, a TMT guy... :think) but it would indeed be a lot of Broner hitting air. :yep
     
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