Did Billy Graham and Team Hatton con the british public

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by robpalmer135, Dec 12, 2007.


  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Billy Graham new that Hatton could not win at Welterweight, Kerry Kayes must of known. These guys along with the Journolists at the Sun and Mirror who should have known better, conned the public into beleiving Hatton could win, making out Mayweather had not trained properly, and had not fought someone like Hatton before.

    Even some of the guys on here fell for it, who are meant to know about boxing1
     
  2. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought hatton and co seemed genuinely confident...

    I never shared their sentiment, but when you're 43 - 0 its hard not to be.
     
  3. Claypole

    Claypole Boxing Addict banned

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    Billy Graham kept saying how strong Ricky was, and how the move up to welterweight was done properly. I don't have a problem with what we were told, considering how hard Ricky trains, and how fit he looked coming into the fight.
    Thing is, we heard the same stuff before the Collazo fight, when it was clear he was not the same at the higher weight. We were not conned, we had enough information to make our own minds up.
     
  4. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    i genuinally believed hatton could go and win but on watching the fight it was never going to happen. and i agree too much was made on mayweather not being ready etc
     
  5. Tony Harrison

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    Deep down they must have known Hatton could not win, due more to Mayweather's superiority than making the weight imo.

    However they had an oppotunity to make a mega fight and had they not taken it on we would all feel deprived and 'conned' out of a massive boxing boxing occasion.

    More a case of reality catching up with Team Hatton on the night than a cynical purely money making exercise imo.

    As for the mainstream British media since when have they known **** all about boxing?
     
  6. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    What a nonesense thread this is.

    Just because Hatton lost, everyone around him should have known BEFORE the fight he'd lose? :patsch

    The only real problem for Hatton in this fight was he couldn't land affective punches on the inside when he got there. He was fast enough to get inside whenever he tried and was competitive through-out the first 7 rounds, until he tired instead of Floyd. So Kerry Keyes should have known that inside Floyd would be able to negate Hatton, is Kerry Keyes a seer all of a sudden?

    Any real boxing fan who was judging this fight sensibly knew that Hatton was about a 10/1 shot for the win, because before the fight it was conceivable that he could have landed when he got inside, and wore Floyd down. But it was always more likely that Floyd wouldn't let him inside or be able to stop him working if he did.

    Hatton and his team had every right to be confident, because unlike 90% of Floyd's opponents, Hatton actually stood a chance of beating him because his style was either going to be hell for Floyd or his style was going to be made for Floyd... Simple as that. This thread is crap.
     
  7. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    most people knew Hatton was more likely to lose than win......many picked Hatton as a live dog and that's fair enough. Winning was not impossible. However I always said he was overrated and had very very little chance of a win. The fight went as I expected...I hope that doesn't make me sound like Manny Stweard...anyway I said this many times BEFORE the fight not like Manny, Wicky was very overrated.
     
  8. Akxtinguish

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    Yes they were conned, but not by Hatton and camp. I'd even got as far as saying that Hatton and co themselves were conned by the media.

    Of course Sky and the bookies had to make noise, this was going to be the biggest pay day of the year for them. The PPV and the bets wouldn't have been half of what they were without all the hype.
     
  9. victorhugo4222

    victorhugo4222 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    couldnt agree more tony. not even Cotto who i rate very highly.

    if hatton did turn down the fight all us fans wouldnt have had the months of excitment building up to this fight. also there would all be the snipers saying hatton is totally overrated he only ever fought a kosta tsyzu who was over the hill etc etc.

    also can anyone else tell me what boxer could have beat PBF on sat night??? cause i cant think of 1.
     
  10. selhurst

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    I don't mean to be rude but I have read a number of your comments on here and it is YOU who knows nothing about boxing.

    Of course it was a risk taking the fight at welterweight, but that was the only way they were going to get Floyd in the ring for a multi-million pound fight.

    Before the fight a number of people tipped Hatton and gave him a chance - there's no shame in that at all - no-one knew how Floyd would react to his constant pressure, no-one knew if Floyd could avoid Hatton's body blows. Plus Floyd isn't the biggest, hardest hitting welterweight in the world, and had prepared by going on a TV show.

    Also Mayweather had not fought anyone exactly like Hatton before - and fighters who applied pressure in the past, like Castillo and De la Hoya, enjoyed a bit of success.

    I didn't think Hatton would win, but I could understand people's arguments in his favour.
     
  11. robpalmer135

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    Michael Gomez, nead i say more!

    I think you will find alot of the more respected broad sheet journos have shared my opinion this week.
     
  12. bratwurzt

    bratwurzt Whore Full Member

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    Well said Selhurst :good
     
  13. UKFightFan

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    I don't think you can blame anyone for being positive, they can not go into the fight expecting to get whopped.

    Having said that, I do think that Ricky was always going to lose, and people should believe in their own thoughts based on previous fights rather than being sucked in and believing the hype like mindless fools.

    I think it is probably time though for Hatton to stop making excuses regarding his ability to fight at 147 and instead look at the real problem. If I were him I'd be thinking seriously hard about whether he has the correct people within his team; whether the reason has performed poorly at 147 is because he fought 2 good fighters who were better than the competition he'd faced at 140.

    I expect Witter to beat him if they were to meet.
     
  14. selhurst

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    It's always easy to be wise after the event. Not many broadsheets cover boxing until there is a big British fight - then they positively leap on the bandwagon and give the sport the coverage it deserves EVERY week.

    I didn't see any of the big broadsheets carrying headlines like 'Hatton Has No Chance' or 'Don't Bother Ricky' the day before the fight.
     
  15. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Broad sheet journo articles written by Steve Dunce.

    Their coverage of boxing is terrible, Its actually better in the tabloids, so dont be so stuck up about your precious sunday times, grandad.