Did Buster D overperform ? or did Tyson underperform ?

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  1. markclitheroe

    markclitheroe TyrellBiggsnumberonefan. Full Member

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    Watched the Tokyo fight again.
    Douglas was A1 or so it looks.
    Was he great....or was Mikey deficient?
    Buster looked like he completed what Tucker and Biggs showed signs of what was possible.
    Despite all that however Tyson almost knocked him out.
    Confusing fight to be objective on ?
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well to say Tyson had just looked a million dollars when destroying Williams I think you'd have to go with Douglas being A1.

    He had Tyson's respect early on with his powerful jabs and combinations, neither Biggs nor Tucker fought him with the same conviction. Douglas had Tyson buying feints all night and this was because Tyson had felt his power early on.

    Douglas was never in any trouble when knocked down and timed the count perfectly, he got too carried away and got careless. It was such a bad beating I'd have fancied Douglas to do the same if they did have the rematch, infact I think he'd beat Tyson even quicker.
     
  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Douglas was On that night. A peak Tyson may have beaten him but it still would have been tough. Combination of a underrated, motivated, skilled challenger giving his all who also was stylistically a bad matchup against an ATG that took him lightly.
     
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    A combination of both
     
  5. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Klompton beat me to it, though I think Douglas being totally on is a greater factor than Tyson being off. Take any other version of Tyson through 2001 against any other version of Douglas and Tyson wins 9 out of 10 times.
     
  6. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I slightly disagree on the above. I think that Douglas beats any post prison version of Tyson. However Tyson of 88 would defeat him.
     
  7. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights and Tyson seemed to always have problems with tall guys with a strong jab who aren't intimidated by him, watching Tyson squirm on the floor with 1 eye struggling to find his mouthpiece was priceless:lol:, loved that man...
     
  8. D9Garrard

    D9Garrard Active Member Full Member

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    I think Buster Douglas was an incredibly talented fighter who never really wanted to follow in his father's footsteps and didn't have his heart in the fight game. This time, he did. Any version of Tyson has problems with that Douglas.
     
  9. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both. A completely focused and on point Tyson still beats that Douglas. A distracted out of shape Tyson still bests the average Douglas performance.

    You have to have a ****py night for Tyson combined with a terrific night for Douglas, otherwise tyson still wins.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    There's no such thing as overperforming.

    (Unless you're talking about knocking out your opponent then knocking out his cornermen, wife and kids for good measure. That would be an excessive performance.)

    I think Tyson was not 100%. Douglas was 100%.
    And if they had both been 100% ? Very possibly Douglas still gets the job done.
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Take a look at the fight, apart from a lapse of concentration Douglas completely destroyed Tyson. There's not one bit of hope the fanboys can cling to that Tyson would ever beat Douglas, Buster would have taken Tyson apart even quicker in a rematch.
     
  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both. Douglas fought a consistent fight from start to finish, which was something he rarely did. Tyson, for his part, walked in looking for one shot, whereas in his true prime just a couple of years earlier he would use good head movement and jab to get inside.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Both imo!
     
  14. Azzer85

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    it takes two to tango
     
  15. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was only one fighter getting tango'd that's for sure... :lol: