Did Calzaghe avoid Ottke like the plague?

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  1. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loudon, it says that Calzaghe vs Mitchell was on HBO, but nothing about it being shown on Sky Sports.

    it says that Lewis vs Vitali was on HBO, but nothing about it being on Sky Box Office.

    it isn't a cut and shut site about which channels the fights were on.

    have you heard about a typo or a mistake???
     
  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This thread has gotten heinous.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Give it up.

    They clearly haven't got every fight from each broadcast.

    Sometimes they had two, sometimes only one.

    You can see that if you choose any year.

    They haven't made any typos, how desperate of you.


    They had one version of Roy's fight, and two versions of Bernard's fight.


    It's sad that you can't admit that you are mistaken.


    I'm off to bed.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Most of the boxing I got to see back then were on terrestrial TV because I didn't have SKY (I still don't). ITV used to show a lot of Don King cards on next day delay on Sunday nights, or even sometimes a whole week later. I think some were televised live occasionally too. I Remember either them or the BBC televised Chavez vs Whitaker and it seemed to go on all night so they must have shown most if not all of the bill. Lennox Lewis was part of the panel in studio IIRC.

    I remember seeing quite a few of Chavez's fights back then on ITV. The rematch against Meldrick Taylor. The Randall fights. Tony Lopez. His fight against Andy Holligan was on there too I think.

    Saw some great action back then, all of which for free. Jorge Castro vs John David Jackson I was a favourite of mine. McClellen vs Julian Jackson. Frankie Randall vs Juan Martin Coggi. Vincent Pettaway vs Gianfranco Rossi. Dennis Andries vs Hearns. I loved Andries for some strange reason. lol. I was gutted when he lost. A few of Mike McCallum's LHW fights. Jeff Harding, Randall Yonker, Carl Jones IIRC. I remember really liking McCallum's style, loved the way everything looked so relaxed and effortless. I also had a soft spot for Harding. Just thought he was a ridiculously tough son of a *****. He ate punches for fun and just kept on coming.

    Watched tons of Tyson too and I even remember watching Hagler vs Leonard, too. I was still in school then and I recall it being considered a big deal even among my schoolmates. And of course I watched all the great domestic fighters and fights they showed too. Benn, Eubank, Watson, Collins etc. The Big Fight Live on ITV was the ****. I still love hearing the theme music. lol

    My only recollection of watching fights on channel 5 is Holyfield vs Moorer II which also had Nate Miller vs Fabrice Tiozzo on the undercard. I think they showed boxing on there at least once more back then but I can't recall which fight it was off the top of my head.

    I watched tons of fights on the BBC too of course. I remember watching a lot on Grandstand and Sports Night. Saw a lot of Nigel Benn's early career on then. He was bowling over everyone like skittles. Lots of Frank Bruno's fights and many others too. Saw quite a few of Calzaghe's early fights on the BBC too, some of which just highlights. His fight against Mark Delaney was on ITV though.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I can only apologise for my part in that.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great post!
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    assassin,


    Are we going to leave it now?


    I've just watched the YouTube clip again.

    Nicky Piper talks of Roy keeping his weight down, and weighing in at 172 pounds.

    Roy weighed 172 against Kelly.

    They also spoke of Bernard being 37 years old, yet when he fought Joppy, he was almost 39.

    Again, they wouldn't have spoken about Roy anyway, on a Hopkins vs Joppy telecast.

    They wouldn't have been discussing him like that, when he'd just beaten Tarver.

    They were clearly discussing both guys, because they'd just showed both of their fights.


    The YouTube clip and the DVD fight list, is more than enough proof for you that Sky showed both of those fights.


    You can't take this any further.


    I was mistaken about watching the Ruiz fight on Sky Sports with their boxing team.

    I can admit that.

    Although I did watch it.


    So let's put this to bed.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks. :good
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  10. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    @ Loudon...

    don't worry Loudon, the fight between Kelley and Jones was on Sky Sports. i was just bluffing about it being on the BBC to see what you'd come back with, because i don't believe you in any way about watching the original broadcast.

    i used that fight because you'd commented on it, so thought i'd push you to try and get you to chop and change your story. i'd checked YT and the Sky Sports broadcast wasn't there so i thought i'd be safe, but you found that little piece that i missed, so you felt some sort of confidence about it being on Sky. then you found that site with the DVD's to give you a bit more backing. but it's OK, you gave me some of what i was looking for anyway.

    you were pretty sure about the Ruiz fight until i told you about Setanta, so you put that into the search engine to find that piece. you had to concede when you knew it wasn't the Sky panel doing the fight. i tried to get you to concede about the other, but you stuck to your guns. that YT video helped you there.

    but the most interesting part was you saying you didn't have your Jones collection any more. in fact, you said you hadn't had it for years. but you've told me loads of times about your Jones collection and watching it on the regular. you have every fight you said. so i knew i had you there because if you did watch the original Setanta broadcast and added it to your collection, due to watching it as much as you've claimed, then all i had to do was ask a few questions about what the commentators said and at what point to prove whether you were telling lies or not. and i KNOW you're telling lies.

    the Setanta broadcast wasn't on YT either. and you wouldn't have been able to find any pieces on the net unless you had the channel that showed the fight, so you were screwed with that one. you either had to say you had the fight, then we'd go over a few questions that you couldn't answer, or you had to come out with the rubbish that you did by saying you don't have Roy's fights any more, even though you've said in the past that you had all his fights in your collection and watch them a lot. you know, because you're a big fan and all...

    i'm going to find that post of yours about your Jones fight collection Loudon to prove you're a liar. if you do get to that post before i do and change it, it will bring up the date you made the edit. and why would you make a recent edit to a few months old post??

    i'm doing this Loudon because of the comments you repeatedly make at me, so i'm going to sink my teeth into this one. making long posts to each other, points get lost in it all. so it's best to stick with the one point so nothing gets lost.

    oh, and you can thank Serge for this because he inspired me with his spanking of Scar with his old posts coming back to haunt him. such a great strategy. don't you think??
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    assassin,

    Ha!

    You're an entertainer.

    So you knew full well that it was on Sky Sports, but you didn't believe me when I was arguing that it was on Sky Sports?

    I told you from the start that I'd watched the double header on Sky.

    So it was all a test? Ha!

    Let me explain about the YouTube clip.

    I didn't go looking for that clip. I knew for a fact it was there. It's been there ages. I knew I could go straight to it, because it's a shortened down version of the HBO clip that's also on YouTube. The HBO clip is 2 mins longer. So I knew when I originally said it was on Sky, that I could instantly provide that clip.

    I was sure, you're right. I made a mistake. But the Kelly fight was the year before the Ruiz fight. So if I'd proved to you that I'd watched that in 2002, there shouldn't have been any reason to have doubted that I watched the Ruiz fight in 2003.

    I honestly did think it was the Sky panel that showed the fight. Again, I also have no recollection of my mate ordering it, or what the undercard was. All I know, is that we went clubbing and then went back to his afterwards to watch it. But I knew it was on Sky.

    You've misunderstood me again.

    I said I no longer had the Kelly and Ruiz fights on VHS. You asked me if I had copies of the fights. Whenever Roy was on TV, I used to tape the fights. But the blank VHS tapes of those fights, will be long gone. I'll have just lost them over time, along with the others. But I haven't lost or thrown away the collections that I ordered from Boxing Monthly. I paid for them, and the tapes are labelled. I used to watch them regularly, until I built my collection up from Ares.

    Do you know what Ares is? It's a download/torrent site. I eventually built up a collection of nearly all of Roy's fights, and they were saved on my hard drive. But when I moved in with my girlfriend, I gave my dad my old computer. But I wasn't bothered about the fights, or even transferring them, because they're all now available on YouTube.

    I wasn't screwed on anything. Apart from originally watching the Ruiz fight on Setanta, through Sky Box Office (that I wasn't even aware of, until you pointed it out) the only versions of the fight that I've seen, are the HBO versions. Almost every fight that I had on Ares, were the HBO versions. I've also watched the Ruiz fight a few times in the last two years on YouTube, which again are HBO's version.

    There seems to be some confusion here. I only ordered the fights from Boxing Monthly that hadn't been televised.

    Again if I've proven that I watched Roy fight live in 2002, there's no reason to doubt that I didn't watch him live in 2003.

    You're being silly.

    You're misreading my posts.

    I haven't thrown my collections away, that I paid for from Boxing Monthly.

    Again, I've lost the old tapes that I myself taped from the TV.

    My Ares collection, to my knowledge, is still on the hard drive of my dad's computer.

    But again, I don't need them anymore because I have access to YouTube etc.

    You can do you want. You won't have any success.

    Look at the mistakes you've recently made.

    You don't read things properly.

    You accused me of having a dig at you with regards to Kessler, when I was actually showing respect.

    You read everything upside down.

    Now why on earth are we arguing about which fights I saw, and how big a fan of Roy's I am, on a thread regarding Joe and Sven?

    :lol:

    Again, you can do what you want.

    You're not going to have any success.

    If you're going to go through my post history to try and catch me out, you'll see literally hundreds of posts about Roy, which if you read, will show you just how big a fan of his I am, and the knowledge that I have on his career.

    It'll be a pointless task.
     
  12. Mind Reader

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    I honestly can't remember the undercard of Jones-Ruiz, but you can bet I watched the fight. To tell you the truth, I don't remember a lot of the undercards over the years. I do believe I was getting my drink on during the Jones-Ruiz undercard. I was smoking a lot of weed around that time too.:lol:
     
  13. Loudon

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    Hi mate, I replied back to you, on post 141.

    You may not have seen it.

    I'd love to hear more about your Grandpa if you don't mind?

    Did he encourage you to box, or show you any basics etc, when you were a kid?
     
  14. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Other that yard boxing with the neighborhood kids not too much... I didn't get to spend as much time with him as I would have liked. And I had got real into wrestling around the 3rd grade, and my desire was to do that instead of boxing..

    There was a time though when I wanted to be a boxer, and had I lived closer to my Grandpa, I may have pursued it. I had a good natural straight right hand, that usually put down the kids I connected on. I was pretty speedy too, which was my strengh in wrestling.
     
  15. bailey

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    Completely correct. It was Setanter where I watched many boxing programmes. I think the first one I watched was Cotto vs Judah. As you say, it was American commentators etc and different to Sky. I needed my sky box to watch setanter, but as you note, once you had setanta you order through your remote and pay a completely seperate company, not sky.

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    Back to Loudon. Please bullet point the post you would like me to read