Did calzaghe ever win ko of the year ?

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  1. Imperial1

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    :lol: like a litte school girl nah I just have to put certain people in their place when it comes to this overrated individual !

    And I don't play games I just speak the truth ! Now off to bed with you ,maybe in your dreams Joe is an atg and actually fought people when it mattered !:hi:
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cant see how you put anyone in their place, with the amount of ducking you do :huh:lol:
     
  3. The Masked Man

    The Masked Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The first half of his career, he was dropping guys. Then he got hand problems and had to stop going for big shots
     
  4. HerolGee

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    you will find that he wasnt fighting complete puddings by then, and couldn't get away with asking them to fall so fast.

    If he had actually had badly damaged hands, he would have retired from boxing , simple as. no one risks their ability to pick up a spoon for sport, not in their right mind.
     
  5. splatter69

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    JOE Calzaghe is set for one of the biggest honours of his career this weekend as he’s inducted into boxing’s hall of fame as a first ballot entrant.
    Ahead of his trip across the Atlantic, Joe sat down for an interview with Argus boxing writer Michael Pearlman.
    This is part two of a four part special with the Calzaghes ahead of their huge honour. See Friday and Saturday’s Argus Sport for the concluding parts.
    Today Joe acknowledges why he’s stayed retired, the toll it takes on a sportsman mentally and confesses to some health issues, including arthritis

    On the ‘0’ in 46-0 being the decisive reason he never returned to the ring
    “If I’d have ever lost, at any stage in my career, if I’d have been 45-1 instead of 46-0 I can say with 100% certainty I wouldn’t have stayed retired.
    “Not a chance, I’d have come back, I’ve had the itch more than enough times, but I’ve listened to the little voice telling me to protect my legacy. If I came back and lost and was 46-1 I’d be richer, but it would haunt me for the rest of my life.
    “But it was also about listening to your body. I’ve got back trouble nowadays and did on occasion when I boxed and my hands are a mess, as they were throughout my career.



    “However, now, I’m not even sure they could license me with the state of my hands. One of them is arthritic, according to the doctor and I do have a lot of issues with them, they are even more fragile now, time hasn’t really helped to heal them!
    “I boxed from age nine, has my first amateur fight in 1982, I trained like a professional, was doing five mile road runs from the age of 12 or 13, so it’s hardly surprising the toll it has taken on me physically.

    “My body took a pounding.”
    Flipping that question, did he actually, in terms of his health, retire too late?
    “Absolutely without question, yes, my decision to retire came far too late in terms of living a totally normal life with my physical condition and well-being.
    “If I’d have listened to the doctors I’d probably have never turned pro.


    “I had hand problems from age 15 and even now I can’t bend back my left hand (reporter note: at this point he demonstrated and indeed, he can’t bend it) I boxed for money and to feed my children.
    “I had periods in my career where I’d be promoting fights and telling everyone I was in the best shape of my career and the actual truth wouldn’t have been as appealing.
    “Can you imagine? ‘Yeah, I don’t feel great, I’ve not been able to do one minute of sparring and I’ll have to beat this guy with one hand as the other one is so badly damaged’ it wouldn’t have sold out too many arenas, lines like that.
    “That’s the way it is, I patched myself up with as much as I could, be it a cortisone injection or extra padding in sparring and I got on with things.
    “But I didn’t retire too early aged 36, far from it. I should’ve retired when I was 16!”
    On finding contentment in retirement and how it isn’t easy to achieve
    “I’m in a good place, I feel happy in myself and that’s a big thing, it is tough, leaving behind a career you were dedicated to.
    “You’ve mentioned to me Freddie Flintoff who has started again with the cricket after trying his hand at boxing and I understand it, I understand missing that buzz, that rush from doing something you love and something you are very good at.
    “At first it’s easy. At first you don’t even notice you’re retired, it took about a year for me.
    “When you’re a champion you probably only box twice a year anyway, so for 12 months my life wasn’t all that different, other than when people invite you out socially, you say yes instead of saying no.
    “Then you reach the point though, where you start to think more and more about what you’ve given up and then it’s easy for wistful thinking to become melancholy. You want to be in the gym training, but what is the point? What are you doing it for?
    “I don’t want to use the word depression, I don’t think I was ever depressed as such, but of course, you do end up bored and you do end up with a lot of time on your hands and no idea how to fill it.
    “So in my case, that meant a couple of years of probably going out too much and maybe doing some things that you shouldn’t, but it’s boredom, you have to solve it.
    “I moved to London and threw myself into other things, even dance shows! and when I got used to my new circumstances, I came through it, and I felt better in myself.
    “I knew way before the fight with Roy Jones I’d retire, I think I told you at the time that after I beat Mikkel Kessler, I saw it that I had two fights left in me.
    “I planned it and it worked out, how can you top going out at the Millennium Stadium, Vegas and Madison Square Garden? You can’t, I certainly saw no way I could.
    “The only reason to hang on is money and that isn’t me, I made more than enough in my career for me and my family and if you are one of those people who always want a bit more, you’ll never stop.
    “Most people can’t stay retired, but I am glad I have been able to. It was time for me to get out of boxing and I am glad I was able to do so on my own terms.”
     
  6. KillSomething

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    Did Valero or Wilder ever win KO of the year? How about Mayweather?
     
  7. HerolGee

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    what a fool you must be to genuinely accept the word of a man who has been a serial lair all his life.

    no one denies he had hand issues, but they were never so bad as to put him out of a career - he was happy fighting for baubles for a long time so don't pretend he did it for money.he could have earned more challenging bigger opponents, but he deliberately didn't - supposedly to "keep his family" POOR and further elongate this supposedly damaging career. stupid!
     
  8. Scar

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    Sensational stuff right here. Thank goodness his entire career was in the pubs of Wales and right off the big screen.
     
  9. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe was actually a very hard puncher in his younger years, but had brittle hands and was constantly injured.

    He then took quite a bit off his punches and relied on his speed.

    Intelligent man.
     
  10. Serge

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    Yeah, bawling your eyes out like a little scolded schoolgirl and a really slow-witted stupid one at that. And you've been doing it for as long as I can remember on a consistent basis, and I've been around here for a long time too.

    :rofl I can honestly say I don't recall ever seeing you put anyone in their place on here. You might walk away from a debate thinking your ass isn't pissing blood like a broken fire hydrant but that's only because your level of stupid is completely off the charts. I very much doubt anyone else on here thinks you have either, unless they're somehow packing even more vegetable matter in between their lugholes than you are that is.

    You don't speak the truth you spend all your time on here deep throating Roid and hating on fighters you don't like, all the while never once daring to throw even the merest hint of criticism Roid's way for being a filthy cheating steroid abuser. That's just one of the reasons why no one should ever take you seriously. That's why I don't even have to respond with serious replies, and like I said in my previous post, you're lucky I don't given how savagely I've raped your ass everytime I could be bothered to toy with you in the pastt.

    I'm afraid you're going to have to do a whole lot better than this to bait me in with your feeble third-rate trolling and to be perfectly honest I don't think it's possible for you to raise your game to that level given the tools you've got to work with. lol. Stick to the little leagues where you belong, son, because you're way out of you depth here. lol
     
  11. Serge

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    Calzaghe talking about how long-term chronic injuries have affected his career.

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    ''I'm not familiar with all the medical jargon but what became clear from the X-ray was that there was extensive tissue damage in what is known as the interosseous membrane, which holds the bones in proper position. Once this happens, it fails to stabilise the position of the bones and this will recur when force is applied, leading to further pain and injury. I went home and told my dad and he was as devastated as I was, but I refused to believe the doctor. I kept trying to put the pain out of my head and still went to the gym to train, strapping my wrist up heavily with bandages, but there was nothing I could do with it. I couldn't box. I couldn't even shadow-box. I would wince with the pain. Ultrasound and different treatments were carried out in the hospital over the following weeks and months but the problem wouldn't go away. Even now I can't press on my wrist or do press-ups properly. I have to do them on my knuckles. Eventually, I overcame the problem with willpower, shutting out the pain and putting so much strapping and tape on my hands inside big gloves that it looked like I was punching with cushions. But for the time being there was nothing to do but take a complete rest and put boxing to the back of my mind.


    ''In my heart I never considered quitting boxing. Of course, I was frustrated about the injuries and the way my career was going, but I was still champion and I needed to fight. even if only for financial reasons, there was no way I could walk away from the sport.

    A video of a 19-year-old Calzaghe expressing concern over the condition of his hands and how he hopes they get better so he can turn pro.

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    Here's another where he discusses how the problems with his hands had forced him to change his style. This should be obvious to anyone who's followed his career from the early days.

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    Her's another where he talks about how he hadn't been able to do any sparring for the second defence of his title due to injury, which was the start of a two and a half year long phase of problems with his wrist, hands, elbow and back.

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    Here's one where he talks about that period of his career.

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    Hand injuries forcing the postponement of the Glen Johnson fight.

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    Barry McGuigan and Steve Bunce taking about Calzaghe having a second ridge of knuckles on his hand due to him breaking his metacarpals so many times.

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    Footage of his broken hand after the Ashira fight.


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    Footage of him with a broken wrist after the Manfredo fight.

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    ''But he couldn't even stop Roy.'' :patsch :rofl
     
  12. bailey

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    That certainly clears it all up beyond doubt, though the haters will try and overlook it
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    That was an old post. I could add more, if could be bothered. I wonder why he used to put a sponge in his left glove during sparring and bag and pad work. Or why he wore specially designed custom made gloves for his last few fights to protect his hands. lol. Of course anyone with half a brain would realize that he didn't even try to stop Roy.
     
  14. Imperial1

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    As much of Joe C's man juice is in your eyes you of all people shouldn't talk about who deep,throats who !

    And no one baited you you simply responded to my reply !

    Out of my depth please , all your nonsense will never make Joe C better than he was ... The man simply never passed the eye test I don't have to make **** it the proof is in his resume !

    You go run along now and go try this **** with someone who might actually fall for your little act !

    And the little league :lol: yeah ok kid go run along to the sand box I have been at this longer than you can even imagine ! Your nothing but a zit around here that pops up every time your hero gets blasted !

    You have no clue as to what fighters I actually root for your only here because I slighted your boyfriend ..I understand his groupies are a sensitive bunch you being one their ring leaders ..But hey I'm here to debate boxing not my fault your panties are up in a bunch ..But it's no surprise seems the lot of you all act in the same way a bunch of *****es ..Maybe you girls can go else where and sip tea and talk about another sport since you ladies get all offended when people call your hero out ! The little,league let me know when you made to the big leagues because I don't noctice chumps yelling from the sidelines !

    And bothered with me in the past man I don't recall having any exchanges with you but I welcome it I don't fear anyone around here ..Especially a Calzaghe fan! You ladies must have me confused with someone else ..:hi:
     
  15. Serge

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    Seeing as it's still the festive season and all, I'll refrain from replying to this for a little while. I do genuinely feel a tad guilty when I rape your ass and use and abuse you even though you bring it all on yourself and thoroughly deserve it. lol