Did Calzaghe really ruin Jeff Lacy? The unanswered questions.

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Notice how Joe ''The Slapper'' Immediately gets Lacy's respect with that left uppercut at the beginning and how he immediately instinctively comes firing straight back after Lacy clocks him with a big right hand at the 0:30 mark and then goes into ''angry windmill mode'' (which is the phrase Duke McKenzie used to describe him IIRC) straight after, bamboozling Lacy with fast right hands and crisp uppercuts of his own

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  2. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    checkout the boxing writers verdicts pre calzaghe v lacy below :oops: :lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:patsch




    Brent Hedtke: This one has all the ingredients of real corker. Both guys have solid chins and very respectable power. If they come out aggressive this could be a fight of the year candidate. That being said, I just don't see how Calzaghe can beat ‘Left Hook’. Joe hasn't looked the same since his fight with Byron Mitchell in 2003 and he's been down twice in his last five fights. Lacy has never come close to tasting the canvas and he hasn't even reached his peak yet. Lacy has fought the better opposition as of late and is only improving. Calzaghe has fought at a much slower pace and may be on the downslide. In the end, Lacy's pressure, aggression and power will get to Joe and the changing of the guard in the super middleweight division will come in the eighth round via TKO."

    Coyote Duran: This year's Ring Magazine World Super Middleweight Championship match between IBF/IBO titlist Jeff Lacy and WBO titlist Joe Calzaghe will be to 2006 what James Toney's IBF cruiserweight bout against then-titlist Vassiliy Jirov was to 2003. A highly anticipated fight that no one could wait for to come off between two cats who dominated a division that few care about. Add to it the drama of Jeff Lacy entering enemy territory, Joe Calzaghe seemingly having everything to prove and three trinkets and a genuine world championship and you have a potentially explosive battle and a possible candidate for Fight of the Year. But don't look too hard for the usuals, Howlers. Calzaghe will prepare to work the fight early assuming Lacy will start a little cold. But in the biggest fight of Lacy's life, expect ‘Left Hook’ to take the fight immediately to the Welsh-Italian and use aggression and his overwhelming upper-body strength to end the fight before the final bell. I'm thinking Calzaghe goes down for the count in Round Six and doesn't get up until it's safe.

    Peter Chhim: Lacy TKO Calzaghe. Lacy is a beast. Add to that he spars with the best southpaw middleweight in the world, Winky Wright, and I seriously doubt Calzaghe will bring anything to the table Lacy can’t handle. Look for him to put a serious hurt on Joe whenever the two get into their heated exchanges. And because of the Englishman’s affinity to these kinds of exchanges, I have to think he’ll play right into the hands of the younger, stronger man. I doubt the fight gets past 7 or 8 rounds.

    Rob Scott: If Calzaghe can take the bombs that will be thrown his way, then I give him a shot. Maybe my vision is blurry, but I don't see him doing that. Lacy 10th round TKO.

    Aaron Imholte: Lacy breaks out in this fight. His power, determination, stamina and chin will just roll over Calzaghe. Lacy will start slow, Calzaghe will be competitive for awhile but look for Lacy, Calzaghe's first true test, to take over in the middle rounds and win the fight by stoppage in the 11th.

    Martin Wade: Vargas-De La Hoya all over again. Lacy's ‘pressure’ is not always effective and Joe C has enough in his tank to weather the early storm. As Lacy starts to lose mustard on his shots (don’t let the muscles fool ya, he will) Calzaghe will start to come forward and land the crisper blows. Don’t get me wrong he won’t take Lacy out as Oscar did with Fernando, Lacy will make a late charge. Calzaghe will survive. Calzaghe SD.

    Gabriel Montoya: This is a battle between my head and heart. My heart says Lacy is too strong, too iron-chinned, too youthful and just plain too much for Calzaghe. But my head says Calzaghe will be on the closest thing to his home turf, in the best shape of his life, is too much technically, has pop of his own, a good set of whiskers and way more experience in Championships fights. If Joe pulls a win, his entire Alphabet reign is validated. Something he should have tried to do years ago. If Lacy wins, he is officially The Man and The Man to Beat at 168. My heart is winning out. Joe will have his moments but Lacy's size, youth and power edges will win out. Lacy by 10th Round KO.

    Wayne Richardson: I myself have little doubt that Lacy is going to walk through anything Calzaghe dishes out. Jeff is a young, hungry warrior. Armed with a great chin, strong fast punching ability and a tremendous will to succeed, Lacy wins this war of attrition by wearing down Joe in the sixth or seventh round.

    Jason Petock: Over here in America we haven't really heard or seen much of Joe Calzaghe and what he is able to accomplish really aside of what we've read and been told about him secondhand. He has a few notable wins over Mario Veit twice and Charles Brewer and Omar Sheika, is the current WBO Super Middleweight Champion, and with an unblemished record of 40-0 (31 KOs) most of us are just waiting to see how he fairs against the powerhouse IBF and IBO Super Middleweight Champion Jeff Lacy, who stands at 21-0 (17 KOs) and is clearly looking to add to his collection. Both men have common past opponents in Omar Sheika and Robin Reid.

    Personally never seeing a Calzaghe fight or him in action, it would be honestly hard for me to say whether he could beat Lacy or not. I'd give him a chance just like any other fighter, but from what I have seen of Lacy and what is still a question mark for me on Calzaghe, I'm going to have to go with ‘Left Hook’ on this one. Some people might criticize Lacy's technical delivery, but he drops bombs and I think he's just going to be way too strong for the ‘Pride of Wales’. Jeff Lacy is on his way up the boxing ladder and I think that his defeat of Calzaghe will only up the ante on the true worth of Lacy as a legitimate force in the Super Middleweight division and beyond.

    Making a somewhat educated guess here, I'm going for Jeff ‘Left Hook’ Lacy by KO in the 2nd round. I think his sheer strength and onslaught is going to overwhelm the Welshman and leave him treading water for survival without a life vest.

    Sean Newman: I can't see Joe taking this one. I really don't think Calzaghe can take Lacy's aggression and punch. And Lacy is going to bring it, fighting in Calzaghe's backyard. Look for Jeff to jump on Joe from the outset, and take him out via third round TKO. Lacy's chin has really yet to be tested, and I don't think he will give Calzaghe the chance to do it, either.

    Benny Henderson Jr.: Calzaghe has the experience, has the power, has the skill, and won’t be an easy task for Lacy so on and so on, but I just feel that Lacy has it; he is young, hungry, and one bad mumbo jumbo! So I have to give this one to my boy Jeff. I say Jeff Lacy gets the hard earned W around the sixth or seventh round.

    Julian Kasdin: Joe Calzaghe, though a long reigning titleholder, has never been the legitimate champion at 168 pounds. His entire legacy rests on this fight, as does the future of the 168-pound division. Some think that the future is Jeff Lacy; others think he is a product of an excellent hype-machine. I think Lacy will come out fast and strong, looking to test Joe's will and his chin. Joe should be able to keep distance for a time, but eventually his age and Lacy's strength and power will catch up with him, and Lacy should win this fight by close decision or a very late stoppage. Hopefully the winner gives the very deserving Mikkel Kessler a shot within the next two or three fights.

    Anthony ****s: I’ve ummed and ahhed over this fight for so long and with just a few hours to go until the first bell I’m really no closer to picking a winner with any level of confidence. That said, I’ll stick my gut feeling and tip a decision win for Calzaghe, who’s handspeed, movement, ring savvy and experience should prove the difference providing he doesn’t get sucked in to exchanges.
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    What's really funny here is that almost half of the guys in the list don't even know who Calzaghe is nor have they ever seen him fight. A few on that list admit that openly. You know there's a problem when Calzaghe's biggest fight to date came after 40 fights and against someone with 21 fights. Go on and continue celebrating this one and only "victory" worth bragging about(only if you're drunk enough).
     
  4. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    It just illustrates the sheer ignorance of Americans :oops: :lol::lol::lol::rofl

    If its not pushed under your nose you don't have a clue, instead you are delusionally brainwashed by the HBO comedy sports channel and Ring Comic into thinking the 175 era of American hype jobs like Tarver, Jones, Dawson, Johnson has any kind of relevance just because these sloppy domestic match-ups were forced down your throats :nut:deal:yep
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah he's a proper lunatic and needs locking up. The stupid **** doesn't even realize how sad he makes himself look by spending so much time doing it.
     
  6. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    Jeff Lacy was never an elite fighter, he beat no one worth mentioning before his fight with Joe nor after the fight, Lacy was just a heavily muscled fighter with a lil power, by the way his power was never all that to begin with, I continue to see similar threads like this, you would think Lacy was some kind of ATG, hof, who will go down in history as the best smw ever, Lacy never accomplished **** in his career and never would have even if he never fought JC, you can't ruin someone who wasn't **** to begin with, he was just hype because he was undefeated by dispatching mediocre competition and was somewhat entertaining...

    Jeff Lacy was never better than Andre Berto is today...let this dude due please...is this suppose to be some big win for Calzaghe or something? I'm confused...
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    As expected, a response purely based on nonsense, off-topic junk and racism. Now back to your Guinness and pork chops piglet.
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    America isn't involved?, are you for real? :lol: Who's the P4P#1 fighter in the world?, who's the best at SMW?(a division which also includes the current #1 British boxer), where are the biggest/best fights taking place?
     
  9. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Hey pal, I just noticed that we joined ESB at the same time oct 2009


    You have received just 42 views of your profile in those 4 years :oops: :lol::lol::lol::rofl:patsch

    HEADBANGER = 1,780,000 profile views in those 4 years :deal


    Why do you think that is? :think
     
  10. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Oh dear, the truths gone and made Scar all mad :lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:patsch:deal:yep
     
  11. Collie

    Collie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hinesight is a great thing
     
  12. Hitta_Squadup

    Hitta_Squadup Beast ***e Full Member

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    Lets see, maybe over a million and a half homo***uals found your screen name intriguing and wanted to see if your head game was really banging, maybe you went and viewed your own profile that amount of times...now if you received a dollar, hell even a nickel for having your profile viewed then it probably would mean something but alas you're making no money for being viewed...

    What type of pathetic loser sits around and compares this type of irrelevant **** anyway, I'm sure you sit at home on your cheap PC masturbating until your grandmother calls you to come massage her arthritic liver spot legs, and change her adult diapers...

    Profile views Lmao...you have to be the dumbest son of a ***** ever, I don't give a **** about that ****, I don't even know how to view the **** and never have, that's how pathetic your reply is...
     
  13. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Ruined" implies there was some degree of greatness or potential to ruin. Lacy never had that. So no.
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    "You dare say Lacy(Calzaghe's legendary accomplishment) isn't elite!?, I have more profile views!"
     
  15. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Oh dear, we seem to have a severe case of profile rage-envy right here :deal

    this twig wristed ham n egger doesn't even realise that you cannot add to your profile view tally by viewing your own profile :oops::lol::lol::rofl

    42 profile views in 4 years means that on average someone views your profile to check your dreary, mundane posts just once per month :lol:

    Everyone knows that low profile views on esb = low credibility, its one of the many reasons why the Team Elite Generals sit comfortably at the top of the ESB food chain, devouring minions on a daily basis in crystal clear HD before a global audience of millions :yep