Did Calzaghe really ruin Jeff Lacy? The unanswered questions.

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

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Not sure. Maybe it might be a good idea if we could assemble a panel of experts to break it down for us, consisting of butt-hurt Yanks, disgruntled fanboys of fighters Joe beat, and weirdly obsessed haters who've devoted a simply staggering amount of ther time spent on here to trying to discredit Calzaghe and poison others against him with their revisionist bull**** and lies. Hopefully a good few Black Panthers will show up for good measure to offer their unbiased opinions too. You know, people without massive agendas.
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Watch them all fit into their slots. lol

Scar · Jul 29, 2013

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You weren't simply a Lacy fan though. Your lips were were literally attached to his bollocks like they were covered in an industrial helping of Super Glue.

And no one's saying Lacy was an ATG or anything you moron. However, he was a good fighter and Joe sucked his soul out through his ass and shattered his confidence and his aura of mystique beyond repair. Suffering a horrible torn rotator cuff injury in the second round of his very next fight, where 97% of the tendon was ripped clean off the bone (the surgeon had to rip the whole thing off and reattach) certainly can't have helped matters.

Lacy is a nice guy too and he didn't deserve the vitriol and ridicule he was subjected to after losing to Joe, mainly by those who'd picked him to bludgeon Joe. atsch

It's the sheer revisionism and sour grapes that is my main bone of contention. Fact is most of you ****ers picked Lacy to annihilate Joe and now over 90 percent of you are claiming that wasn't the case.

And Calzaghe didn't like flying actually. He could be convinced to do it sometimes but the phobia was very real.

'World champion Joe Calzaghe will conquer his fear of flying when he travels by plane to Newcastle ahead of his showdown with top American Byron Mitchell.

The Welshman makes the 13th defence of his WBO super middleweight crown on Saturday, May 24, at the Telewest Arena and has previously avoided planes whenever possible to instead go by train or car.

For the toughest test of his career, however, Calzaghe has decided to face his demons head on and will fly up for the date with the former two-time WBA world champion.

"I'm more worried about getting on a plane than I am about getting in the ring with Mitchell," admitted Joe.

"For my last fight in Newcastle I travelled six hours on the train from Cardiff just to avoid boarding a plane or going near an airport which stresses me out. I did the same when I came up for the Press conference announcing this fight
"I have flown in the past but if there is another way I can travel I normally will chose that. (I actually saw a feature on Joe back then and there was footage of some of his family members trying to convince him to take the plane).

"What has made me change my mind for this fight is that I'm going to face the biggest test of my career against Mitchell so a little thing like getting on a plane seems so small in comparison. Plus it only takes about an hour to get to Newcastle rather than sitting on a train for half a day!"

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Joe+on+a+wing+-+and+a+prayer.-a0100905007

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What happened to the phobia when 44 year old Hopkins and ancient Jones Jr. were all of a sudden worthy foes?

Please spare the past talk about who picked who. Yeah, I picked Lacy to spark him like the other 90% who didn't even know who Calzaghe was. The only thing we knew about him is his phobia and hand injuries and it wasn't our fault, even British fans didn't know who the hell he was and picked Lacy. I'm glad you remember me and who I picked back then, sadly I don't remember you nor do I remember who you picked. However, I'm sure you will be first to claim you picked Calzaghe with confidence and relish.

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

'ROY JONES JR
Lacy wins, and I'll tell you why. One of the main factors that would lead to a Lacy win is Calzaghe's heart.

I'm not saying Calzaghe dosen't have heart, I'm saying he has too much!

When Lacy nails Calzaghe and hurts him then Joe will try to get payback, and then he will be open to really get hurt - which he will.

JAMES TONEY
Joe Calzaghe-Jeff Lacy is a mismatch. Lacy is going to destroy that boy. He's too strong, he's a fighter - he's proved himself.

Calzaghe never did anything. He beat Chris Eubank nine years ago, but what has he done since then? He's a joke, that's why he keeps pulling out of fights.

I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out of this one. Everybody in the UK is over-protected, but Lacy will be OK, because he's a fighter.

NIGEL BENN
I remember seeing Lacy a while back on Joe's undercard and I wasn't impressed, wasn't impressed. But he seems to of really knuckled down and improved since then.

I saw him fight Robin Reid and I was impressed, he looked good and he'll give Joe some stick. I reckon both guys will take abit of stick.

Lacy seems to like to maraud forward and Joe has always thrown a lot of leather. I reckon they'll both take some stick but you have to go with Joe, he has that killer instinct and fast punches to get the job done but he'll take some stick man, take some stick.

ROBIN REID
Make no mistake about it - three, five, eight or 10 years ago and Calzaghe would of overcome a Jeff Lacy. I really think Calzaghe of years gone by was too strong, too fast and too flashy for Jeff.

But I'm definately predicting a Lacy win now. Calzaghe's chin is not as strong as it once was due to wars against Eubank, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell, Salem and so on.

Also, the main factor is that Joe's left hand is very prone to injury and he'll need to hit Jeff as hard as he can to keep him off him.

I think Calzaghe may injure his hand during the fight and get ruthlessly stopped in the mid-rounds by Jeff Lacy. Fight over.

MIKKEL KESSLER
I predict it will be an excellent match but if the fight goes past six rounds Joe Calzaghe will be victorious.

Whilst Lacy has obvious power I think Joe has too much experience and too much boxing ability for him.

If Calzaghe stays away from the obvious power of Lacy early on he will come out victorious.

RICHIE WOODHALL
My money's on Joe but I would have preferred this fight to have come five years sooner.

Joe's on home soil and, although it's great when the crowd's behind you, they can spur you on and force you into boxing the wrong style.

If he stands and fights with Lacy, Joe will come unstuck because Lacy's got a lot of power and is the best short-range fighter in the division.

But Joe will show intelligence and keep it mid-to-long range. I think he'll box cleverly on the back foot and win on points.

CARL FROCH
I think Calzaghe's left it a couple of years too late. Two years ago he would have beaten Lacy on points.

But he doesn't look as sharp and tough as he used to, and I think Lacy will get him out of there within the distance.

The last few fights Calzaghe's hit the deck a couple of times and that shows a bit of vulnerability.

I've got a feeling Calzaghe will make the mistake of being drawn into a fight, because he's a proud man. He'll come unstuck, because Lacy is a big puncher.

STEVE BUNCE
Calzaghe will win it. Lacy hasn't beaten anybody who's been anywhere near their best.

He's the American idol but he's really not that special. Hopefully Joe has enough left and has not left it too late for the big fight.

CLINTON WOODS
Calzaghe may have a few sticky moments early on if Lacy comes out banging but Joe is strong enough to deal with it.

I can then see him winning it late on and stopping Lacy, maybe in the eighth or ninth round.

I hope he does it, it's great for us British fighters to show the Amercians what we can do.

FRANK MALONEY
It will be a tough fight for Joe and I can see it being very close.

It could go to points but I think having that crowd behind him in Manchester will play a big factor and give him the edge.

FREDDIE ROACH
Lacy is too strong for Calzaghe. It will not go the distance.

I see Lacy ending it in the later rounds, possibly by the 10th.

JEFF FENECH
I don't see how Calzaghe can keep Lacy off of him.

I wouldn't be surprised by a knockout, but I think it will probably be by a dominant unanimous decision.

Glenn Catley, who Calzaghe beat in the 1992 ABA final, is going for a Lacy win.

Chris Sanigar, who's fighters Joe beat in successive ABA finals (Catley in 92 and Darren Dorrington in 1993), predicts that Calzaghe will win.

And OSCAR DE LA HOYA is apparently going with Calzaghe!'
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Scar · Jul 29, 2013

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Watch them all fit into their slots. lol
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"Butt-hurt" over who?, Calzaghe's supreme demolition of Lacy? It's clowns like you that have nothing better to brag and drink about than this really. If it wasn't for this fight you wouldn't be regularly consuming alcoholic beverages. Don't worry about Americans, they have enough athletes to be proud of and surely one of those athletes got you to follow this sport anyway. You go celebrate the pride of Wales.

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

This is what John Garfield, who is one of the best posters on this site and has spent over half a century in gyms and around great fighters, had to say in defence of Lacy to all those accusing him of being a complete bum.

Originally Posted by John Garfield

Lacy had me believing, and I've watched a zillion fighters train since the '40s. He was wrecking big heavyweights sparring. Trainers needed extra padding to do mits; 'n even then, he dislocated elbows.
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Lacy was a legit bomber, A. He may've been ponderous 'n predictable, but he had HEAVY HEAVY hands.
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I Watched him in the gym, when he first came to L.A.

No super middle, no one, would spar with him -- was flattening cruiserweights. Freddie Roach had to get braces for his elbows when he worked pads with him.

The only other time I'd seen that happen was when Freddie worked with Tyson.

Everyone in the gym was convinced he was the goods. Even James Toney, who throws compliments around like manhole covers, said, "Lacy's the man when I'm not here''
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HEADBANGER · Jul 29, 2013

I genuinely didn't realise Scar was a Lacy fanboy back then :roflatsch

Showtime and Ring comic must have told him how great Lacy was and he believed the brainwashing like a gullable little school boy :rofl:deal

Scar · Jul 29, 2013

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This is what John Garfield, who is one of the best posters on this site and has spent over half a century in gyms and around great fighters, had to say in defence of Lacy to all those accusing him of being a complete bum.
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Some more reasons for you right there to slam beers in celebration of Calzaghe's biggest victory. Keep digging for more inspirational comments, those beers sure as hell won't slam themselves.

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

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What happened to the phobia when 44 year old Hopkins and ancient Jones Jr. were all of a sudden worthy foes?

Please spare the past talk about who picked who. Yeah, I picked Lacy to spark him like the other 90% who didn't even know who Calzaghe was. The only thing we knew about him is his phobia and hand injuries and it wasn't our fault, even British fans didn't know who the hell he was and picked Lacy. I'm glad you remember me and who I picked back then, sadly I don't remember you nor do I remember who you picked. However, I'm sure you will be first to claim you picked Calzaghe with confidence and relish.
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You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. I know you're a big crybaby but don't expect me to do teach you how to read properly. lol

I picked Super Joe of course. On points but I didn't predict a complete schooling though.

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

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I genuinely didn't realise Scar was a Lacy fanboy back then :roflatsch

Showtime and Ring comic must have told him how great Lacy was and he believed the brainwashing like a gullable little school boy :rofl:deal
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He was known as THE Lacy fanboy. lol

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

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Some more reasons for you right there to slam beers in celebration of Calzaghe's biggest victory. Keep digging for more inspirational comments, those beers sure as hell won't slam themselves.
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I never touch alcohol thank you very much. I'm not a football fan either.

Slyk · Jul 29, 2013

Reminds me of when Lewis KO'd Tyson and brit commentators quickly screamed "QUITE POSSIBLY THE GREATEST BRITISH VICTORY EVER!!"

Perspective is surely not common in brittardia.

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

Scar said: ↑

"Butt-hurt" over who?, Calzaghe's supreme demolition of Lacy? It's clowns like you that have nothing better to brag and drink about than this really. If it wasn't for this fight you wouldn't be regularly consuming alcoholic beverages. Don't worry about Americans, they have enough athletes to be proud of and surely one of those athletes got you to follow this sport anyway. You go celebrate the pride of Wales.
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I'm not bragging dumbass. I'm just pulling you clowns up on your **** that's all.

Perhaps you could point out the part of my post where I said Lacy was a great fighter? He wasn't the next Tyson like all you lot were hyping him up to be. However, he was good before Joe took his soul and most of you bigoted ****s all turned on him because you can't stand the fact he got schooled by Joe.

HEADBANGER · Jul 29, 2013

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He was known as THE Lacy fanboy. lol
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:roflatsch

I don't see how he can possibly continue posting under his 'scar' identity after the revisionist bull**** he just spoke

Stick a fork in scar, he's done :deal

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

Go check the Calzaghe-Lacy staff predictions over at the Scene if you want a giggle.

Doghouse Boxing too.

Serge · Jul 29, 2013

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I don't see how he can possibly continue posting under his 'scar' identity after the revisionist bull**** he just spoke

Stick a fork in scar, he's done :deal
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He conveniently forgets to mention he picked Lacy to steamroller Joe. So do many others. lol

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